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Ted Webb

06-07-2002 19:06:09




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Other than the required hay harvesting equipment, what are the pro/cons for establishing winter pasture (maybe oats or rye) versus establishing and harvesting hay for winter feeding? Thanks, I'm grateful for all responses.




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thurlow

06-09-2002 18:22:46




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 Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to Ted Webb, 06-07-2002 19:06:09  
Cheapest way I've found is to "stockpile" fescue; i.e. graze or clip short in late fall, fertlize with Nitrogen; keep cattle off 'til all other pasture is gone. With proper management (and right number of cows), can often make near 1/2 of winter before having to feed hay. Certainly conditions are different in different places and this may not work for you.



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thurlow...error

06-09-2002 18:26:57




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 Re: Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to thurlow, 06-09-2002 18:22:46  
Late summer, not late fall.



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paul

06-09-2002 17:51:59




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 Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to Ted Webb, 06-07-2002 19:06:09  
Grazing is a bit cheaper, but requires more attention, more fencing, more water issues.

All depends where you live. 'Here' we can't expect to graze after December on anything, the snow is too deep. How is it 'there'? Around these parts they graze corn stalks after combining the corn. You will be planting an annual & setting up fence & water.

Harvesting the hay will give you a sure thing for your investment, to store in good years or use leftovers in poor years. The grazing has to work every year, excess is plowed under, shortages you have to buy expensive hay to make up.

--->Paul

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Ted Webb

06-10-2002 00:10:15




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 Re: Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to paul, 06-09-2002 17:51:59  
Paul,

As usual your wisdom and experience shines through. Thanks for another great input.
I live in a frost free part of Australia. Looking at drip irrigating for winter pasture or hay meadow. Have plenty of land, but as you might guess water is the issue. I've always wanted to try the hay, might start looking for some used implements. However, prices here higher for used implements.

Thanks again.

Ted

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howard

06-09-2002 13:44:18




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 Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to Ted Webb, 06-07-2002 19:06:09  
the name of the game is to keep cattle in good flesh or if growing to gain at a profitable rate. if you can do this running out that is fine Remember you might still need to supliment feed in case of storm. Thin or poor cattle never made nobody nothin'



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Ted Webb

06-09-2002 16:56:19




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 Re: Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to howard, 06-09-2002 13:44:18  
Howard,

Thanks again for your input.
Ted



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howard

06-09-2002 13:41:30




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 Re: hay versus winter pasture in reply to Ted Webb, 06-07-2002 19:06:09  
the name of the game is to keep cattle in good flesh or if growing to gain at a profitable rate. if you can do this running out that is fine Remember you might still need to supliment feed in case of storm. Thin or poor cattle never made nobody nothin'



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