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John

07-13-2002 15:32:17




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Want to construct a flat bed wagon. I have two 2 by 12 by 16 feet for the main frame, I intend to use 2by 4s laid on top of these. For the floor I want to use 3/4 x 4 by 8 plywood. Four sheets of plywood would make the bed 8 feet by 16 feet. Is this a reasionable size, or is this too wide? also, do I have to worry about twisting if the wagon wheels drop into a hole:? Please share your expertise. Thanks

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JMS/MN

07-14-2002 14:50:50




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 Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John, 07-13-2002 15:32:17  
A single 2 by is way too light for a wagon stringer for hay bales. Minimum would be two, very sturdy would be three- probably go with a 2 by 10 then. Space the floor members to allow water to drip through. I'd use 2 by 8 or wider- not 2 by 4. Making sure the floor is cleaned after use, not allowing hay to accumulate and get wet, makes the floor last longer if the wagon is not stored inside, as well as coating the wood.

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John Ne.

07-13-2002 23:02:32




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 Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John, 07-13-2002 15:32:17  
I agree with Robert, plywood won't last much more than a year unless its pampered and kept inside. and plywood can't seem to take any amount of twisting, and nails start popping up. Go with a 2x6 deck. John in Ne.



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Greg

07-14-2002 13:41:50




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 Re: Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John Ne., 07-13-2002 23:02:32  
Sorry about the triple post...my dang browser got hung up. If only computers were as reliable as tractors. Can anyone imagine using a 50 year old computer in 2052?



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Greg

07-14-2002 11:35:24




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 Re: Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John Ne., 07-13-2002 23:02:32  
Got a tip from my neighbor that you might find useful. Apply old waste oil with a paintbrush to the deck boards. It may be a little sticky at first but dries fast and makes a great preservative. Alot cheaper than pressure treated too.



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Greg

07-14-2002 11:34:10




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 Re: Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John Ne., 07-13-2002 23:02:32  
Got a tip from my neighbor that you might find useful. Apply old waste oil with a paintbrush to the deck boards. It may be a little sticky at first but dries fast and makes a great preservative. Alot cheaper than pressure treated too.



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Greg

07-14-2002 11:33:46




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 Re: Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John Ne., 07-13-2002 23:02:32  
Got a tip from my neighbor that you might find useful. Apply old waste oil with a paintbrush to the deck boards. It may be a little sticky at first but dries fast and makes a great preservative. Alot cheaper than pressure treated too.



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Michael Soldan

07-13-2002 19:36:19




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 Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John, 07-13-2002 15:32:17  
John, I just finished building a new hay wagon but it wasn't cheap. I went to a local saw mill and got 3"x10" x16' sills cut at$40 each. I used 35 pieces of 2"x6"x8' and 6 pieces of 1"x4" as a border to sandwich the top plus 72- 21\2" carriage bolts..the lumber yard bill was $359 +$80 for the sills..I think 2"x12" is too light for sills..only good thing about all of this was that I bought the wagon running gear for$100 and it was a good solid wagon, I gave the wagon a coat of paint and I will spray the new rack with Thompson's water seal and give it a good soaking. This is the second wagon rack I built in two years the first is similair but I used 5|4" decking x6"x8'and it is a bit too light, I broke a board loading grain bags with a dolly cart..wheel went right through the deck board but I had 28 bags of feed on the dolly. I like the 2"x6" x8 for the top..an 8'rack is perfect for small squares.In the winter time I load the mower,scrapper blade, bush hog and miscellaneous items onto the wagons , then put them inside so I double up on storage space. I drill a hole in the sill just above the front axel and wrap a piece of chain around the axle and bolt it to the sill, this keeps the rack on the wagon and allows the wagon frame and the top to flex on uneven ground... good luck from Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Robert in W. Mi.

07-13-2002 18:11:48




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 Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John, 07-13-2002 15:32:17  
Around here they use heavier timbers for the main frame, at least 3" wide by 10 or 12, and then 4x4's across them. Then 2x6's laid across the 4x4's. I guess it depends on how much you are going to load on your wagon, and how long you want it to last?? BTW, with a ply wood top, it will hold the rain, and soon start rotting. 2x6's for the most part let the rain go on through, and the air through to let the wood breath. Pressure treated wood really helps too!! Robert

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Frank

07-13-2002 17:07:20




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 Re: Flat bed wagon in reply to John, 07-13-2002 15:32:17  
8 feet seems to be a common width for wagon beds; some baler thrower boxes are 9' in width. With reasonable construction, twisting should not be too much of a factor. However, do consider the width of the roads where you are traveling-- we only had 7' beds on the wagons when I was a kid due to narrow country roads.



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