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Converting Round bales to Square bales

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Bill

08-27-2002 19:45:32




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Has anyone unrolled a round bale and rebaled it with a square baler? Any tips would be helpfull. Bill




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john

08-30-2002 21:30:12




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
THIS IS BEING DONE ALOT IN THE SOUTH THERE IS ALOT OF SQUARE BALES GOING TO FLORIDA I LOOKED AT THE MACHINE THAT IS BEING BUILD TO DO THIS WITH AND TALKED TO OWNERS OF THE MACHINES AND THEY SAY IT NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENTS THE NAME IS T,S EZ UNROLLER BUILT IN GEORGIA THIS IS A FAST WAY TO GET YOUR HAY TO COVER AND NOT RAIN ON IT . I HEARD THAT THERE IS A MAN WHO HAS BUILT ONE AND BALES
500 SQUARE BALES IN A ONE HOUR AND THE BALES LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REBALED!!!!

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Bob

08-28-2002 20:16:56




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
We did it with straw. Turned the round bale on its side, unrolled with fork and forked it into the stationary square baler with elevator at other end. We made a guard so no one backed onto the PTO. Worked OK for 5 round bales of straw but I don't know about hay. First cutting I guess would be OK but I wouldn't try it with second. The more you handle it, the more your quality will suffer due to loss of leaf, I would think. Good Luck

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Captain.n/e,Mo.

08-28-2002 16:15:32




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
We bought an old Amish farm with a barn full of loose hay,We sat the 14T under a hole in the floor with a couple sheets of tin for a schute and the elevator behind the baler, we made around 2000 bales . This is a little different than baling up a round bale but not soo different ,just baling used hay. I have baled up busted bales and that would be the same,I usually re rake them.



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I've had some square bales that looked like they were trying to convert themselves to round bales!

08-28-2002 15:03:35




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
Ended up looking like parentheses!



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Jim(VT)

08-28-2002 11:54:29




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
sure anything is possible....thats the problem when you have to fit a round bale into a square hole.....buy in bulk and repackage.



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gy3020

08-28-2002 10:24:49




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
Hi Bill,
It would really be pretty easy too do, get the roll unrolled and run a rake through it an then square it up. If the roll was undone in a straight line and the width is not wider than the square baler pick up you probably wouldn't even need to rake it. I have never done it but I do custom hay baling and I personally don't see a major problem with it. I did see a deal a guy had made one time that unrolled round bales ontoa conveyor and fed it into a square baler, they baled rain or shine with the square baler like that and year round. Saved labor on hauling the squares out of the field and they could just square how many a customer needed. Pretty cool looking deal!

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gy3020

08-28-2002 10:23:43




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
Hi Bill,
It would really be pretty easy too do, get the roll unrolled and run a rake through it an then square it up. If the roll was undone in a straight line and the width is not wider than the square baler pick up you probably wouldn't even need to rake it. I have never done it but I do custom hay baling and I personally don't see a major problem with it. I did see a deal a guy had made one time that unrolled round bales ontoa conveyor and fed it into a square baler, they baled rain or shine with the square baler like that and year round. Saved labor on hauling the squares out of the field and they could just square how many a customer needed. Pretty cool looking deal!

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david

08-28-2002 11:24:36




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 Re: Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to gy3020, 08-28-2002 10:23:43  
I've done it a few times. Doesn't work well with alfalfa. Way too much leaf loss. Works great for timothy. I had a hydraulic powered unroller and it it did a good job. Been thinking of setting up a system like you are talking about. Mount square baler stationary and bring rolls to a conveyer. It takes me 2x as long to square as round and then as long again to run stack wagon.

Yield was 15-20 squares for 4x5 round. Reason: 4x5 round worth $14.00. Squares worth $3.75 each. I can do about 4 rolls an hour so I'm making almost $200.00 an hour, accounting for fuel and twine.

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twwhowdy@aol

08-28-2002 07:57:32




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
ihave seen it done like this ,cut the twine off the bale,use a tool with 2 spikes to go in the core of the bale a "u" shaped tool,hook ok with pickup and un roll bale .then bale up with square baler.the way i have seen it done its real simple.



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Jim

08-28-2002 07:42:51




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
We buy straw in big round bales and take a bale processor and make a windrow and then bale the windrow with our square baler.



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Jim

08-28-2002 07:37:42




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
We buy straw in big round bales and take a bale processor and make a windrow and then bale the windrow with our square baler.



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smirkey

08-28-2002 07:30:30




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
i am interested. especially for straw. i could buy rounds by the trauler load and re-bale for the urban market. i never could figure a good way either without an expensive un-rolling machine, conveyer, etc.



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SmallOps

08-28-2002 05:16:45




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
Respectfully Bill, your question, at first glance, leads one to believe you have WAY TOO MUCH liesure time on your hands! ;)

Seriously, the labor, the negative effect on hay quality, the waste hay that would have to be disposed of, and the safety issues of hand feeding (and I do mean "hand" feeding) a powered-up square baler all lead one to conclude that its NOT a productive undertaking! (just my opinion)

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gy3020

08-28-2002 10:19:14




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 Re: Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to SmallOps, 08-28-2002 05:16:45  
What makes you think he was talking about hand feeding the hay into the square baler? Number one I don't think that would work too well especailly with a wire baler. I am sure he is talking about putting the hay into a windrow or running the square baler through the roll that was unrolled.



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hay

08-28-2002 02:21:30




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 Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to Bill, 08-27-2002 19:45:32  
why would you want to?



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JohhnyB

08-28-2002 15:45:43




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 Re: Re: Converting Round bales to Square bales in reply to hay, 08-28-2002 02:21:30  
Yes, you can do it, works great you can unroll it and rebale right up. I think I still have that article that was in Progressive Farmer were a father/son team were doing this under a big shed with a stationary square baler and self unrolling feeder they made squares all winter long.



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