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1940's New Holland Baler

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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 06:57:42




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I am looking for information, and a source for pictures if possible on a New Holland Baler.
I will describe as much about this as I can.
I know that it was built during WWII. My father drove our Farmall H to New Holland in Feb to get the baler. He left right after milking in the morning and did not get back until that evening. New Holland is 45 miles from home.
Now I have to say that is based on stories since I wasn't born until 1944.
The baler was HUGE. It had a Wisconsin V-4 (which I still have) and drove with I think 6 vee-belts to a large fly wheel. Standing at the front of the baler, looking back the plunger was on the left side. The elevator (right) was canvas with a top and bottom belt. The cross feed was an auger.
Originally there was a wooden seat mounted on the side of the bale chamber on the left side---that disappeared after I hit it with the Cletrac.
The hitch was heavy plate bent in a semi-circle in the front. There was a screw jack and tool box mounted inside the hitch in front of the engine.
The drive for the plunger was off two big open bull gears. Ours was a twine baler.
The engine was (is) crank start that would kick like a mule and if you weren't careful try to put the crank into orbit. If you stalled it hot it had to cool before it would restart. There was a hand clutch on the output of the motor.
It also had BIG rubber tires.
Unfortunately, in about 1960 it caught fire from a broken bearing on the auger feed and the only thing salvageable was the engine. Amazingly I was using the same Farmall H that my father used to pick it up when the fire happened. If anyone could aim me in the right direction I would appreciate it. I have tried doing searches and think it may have been a Model 77, but cannot find any pictures to verify that.

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Dave

10-20-2002 04:22:28




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
Sounds almost like one our neighbor had when I was a kid.It was a wire tie though.I remember Walt used to pull it with his MC J.D. crawler because it being so heavy.Sorry I can't remember any numbers,but I'll never forget the sight-sound of that thing making hay.



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Dave

10-20-2002 04:21:49




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
Sounds almost like one our neighbor had when I was a kid.It was a wire tie though.I remember Walt used to pull it with his MC J.D. crawler because it being so heavy.Sorry I can't remember any numbers,but I'll never forget the sight-sound of that thing making hay.



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Dave

10-20-2002 04:20:52




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
Sounds almost like one our neighbor had when I was a kid.It was a wire tie though.I remember Walt used to pull it with his MC J.D. crawler because it being so heavy.Sorry I can't remember any numbers,but I'll never forget the sight-sound of that thing making hay.



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Jim in michigan

10-18-2002 18:21:24




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
does it have a big pusher on top with teeth on it for packing the hay? if so I know where one of those old beasts are ,,I had one until last year myself,,,Jim



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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 18:53:34




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 Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Jim in michigan, 10-18-2002 18:21:24  
Yes sir--that is it.

What I remember is that it would bale about anything you could get into it. The only real problem with it for us was baling orchard grass.
It was too slippery and would not feed up the elevator well--it just slipped on the canvas. It helped if you raked into double windrows, that would kind of push it up.

After that baler burned we got a new one with a thrower on it, but it would not come close to baling the volume of the old one.

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LynMn

10-18-2002 17:13:43




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
With the hitch, jack and 6 vee belts you describe,you have a 76 baler. I belive the 75 had a flat belt drive.As a young man I helped set up a few 76s.They were shipped to us by rail.Two bale chambers on 1 axel,we had draw bar that spaned the 2 hitchs for transport.At the shop 1 chamber had to be lifted off and put on the other
axel.The feeder house, auger and pickup were in parts. It took days for two men to assemble them. When tieing the plunger was latched forward in the chamber and the tublar con.rod unlatched and telescoped within itself.There was a crash-bang noise for each 1 of the 2 strokes it missed while tieing. Enough history! Lyn Mn

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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 18:48:11




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 Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to LynMn , 10-18-2002 17:13:43  
Yep--I forgot that, the plunger would stop while the needles came through to bring the twine over to the knotter.
It was more like a real short stroke--I don't remember how it did that.



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Scott

10-18-2002 09:33:26




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
The model 73 was made from Dec. 1940- Nov. 1943, the plunger ran on 2 wood half way up the bale chamber and used a chain driven slicing knife mounted on the back of the baler to cut the wads of hay, the model 75 was made from Dec. 1943- Feb. 1946 the plunger slide and slicing were in the bale chamber, the model 76 was made from Mar. 1946- 1948 and used more v belts instead of chains. The serial# off the engine plate will give a close year of the baler.

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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 12:13:45




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 Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Scott, 10-18-2002 09:33:26  
I just talked to my brother---who is four years older than I am and found out a little more information. From your description he said the one I'm referring to was a 75. The cut-off blade was at the top rear of the bale chamber. What I didn't know is that before that one we had a 73, which came home in the same way---my father drove to New Holland in the middle of the winter on the same Farmall H.
You would think doing that once would be enough to keep you from doing it again!!

Thanks guys.

I'm still searching for a picture so if anyone could help out there I would appreciate it.

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Scott

10-18-2002 16:15:59




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 Re: Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 12:13:45  
I have an extra operators manual and parts list for a 75 if you are interested.



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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 18:55:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Scott, 10-18-2002 16:15:59  
Scot, send me an email if you would.



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larry

10-18-2002 16:44:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Scott, 10-18-2002 16:15:59  
several years ago maybe 1975 new holland made copies of sale books and i have one and the baler is simaler to the one you describe no number but the name is automation pick up baling press give a call at Kief@mhtc.net larry



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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 18:54:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to larry, 10-18-2002 16:44:16  
Thank you!



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Herb

10-18-2002 08:33:52




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
Your baler is a 76. In 1848 (aprox.) they came out with the 77 without the canvas feed. They then used chains with teeth. They also changed the pickup to the right side. There are still a few around.



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paul

10-18-2002 10:40:14




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 Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Herb, 10-18-2002 08:33:52  
1948 would be closer. ;)

--->Paul, more typos than anyone else....



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Herb Wessel

10-18-2002 13:22:34




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 Re: Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to paul, 10-18-2002 10:40:14  
Opps!



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Herb Wessel

10-18-2002 13:20:41




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 Re: Re: Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to paul, 10-18-2002 10:40:14  
Opps!



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Dave Grubb

10-18-2002 07:16:34




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 Re: 1940's New Holland Baler in reply to Dave Grubb, 10-18-2002 06:57:42  
Sorry for the multiple posts. When I tried to post this it hung up on me and appeared not to go through---obviously it did and now there is no way I can find to delete some of them :(



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