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Bob J

10-20-2002 19:46:46




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I would like to bale some cornstalks for bedding for my hogs,but I have never tried this before. What I need to know is can i do this with a J.D.214t without tearing it up ? How do you get it in to a windrow ? How dry do they need to be ? I don't have any way to handle big round bales . thanks




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larry

10-26-2002 03:15:49




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
friend tried baling with allis snapped plunger shaft in two we used new holland but took the wedges in the bale chamber out we cut with gyromower and then raked we also chopped with a 717 and regular hay head never cut or raked and never broke a pickup finger



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Steve

10-24-2002 10:24:47




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
Hi Bob, I live in Amish country and this is corn stalk baling heaven!! I have worked for a New Holland dealership for 26 years and I must tell you the truth: I HATE CORN STALKS!!!!! ! They are so hard on equipment and so hard on knotters. PLEASE do yourself and your baler a favor and forget putting those wretched demons through your small baler!(Ha,Ha) I'm only slightly kidding. If you must, make sure you let them dry all the way. Email me if you have any other questions, Steve

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bob

10-22-2002 19:46:18




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
I have baled corn stalks with a 336 deere before. As everyone says it is hard on the machines. Also round baled them and used a stacker too. With a small square bale you will have to lossen the bale chamber tension way down. corn fodder has high resitance to slide through the baler. So, this means you need less spring pressure to get a nice tight bale. Kepp adjusting it down tell the bale stays together after it comes out of the baler. To much tension and a bale will break the strings. Email me if you have more questions.
Bob

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kraig WY

10-21-2002 07:36:20




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
I have a 214T and tried baling corn stocks. I went through sheir pins like it was going out of stile. I then just raked them in a pile and use the loader/gaffle to pick them up. Pigs thrived on the stocks it their not too dry and cut down on my feed bill.



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punchie

10-21-2002 05:45:40




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
HI Bob

Not so sure about baling corn stalks, I have tried this for shooting bows. Very hard on the equipment. MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T GET THE ROWS TOO BIG, AND NO STONES OR ANYTHING ELSE HEAVY(DIRT) IN THE ROWS.

I brush hogged with side open I think one row at a time, blowing the side that was open into the next row make a row out of about 4 to 5 rows. If I remember right was ok to bale if there was some grass ( weeds ) mixed in. But the bales were too loose. I think you'll find that if you cut two rows at a time it is to rough to bale, chopped up better one row at a time. Bales were hard to handle and messey. Raking (turning) was very hard on the rake; heavy maybe it was too green, not sure. Go slow try to get dry before you cut it down, cut it high so not to get the dirt, small rows 1'-1 1/2'( no big winrows ) Make sure it is clean of objects, be ready to fix the rake, and baling should go OK. Your not going to get it all going to leave a tail behind the baler. The bales should be on the loose side, you don,t need to force the needle into the knotter, than you will need to fix that, so let the bales on the the loose side. May have to watch that so you can find a happy middle ground ( bale tenion).

Give it a try and GOOD LUCK !!

Punchie

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paul

10-21-2002 07:08:11




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 Re: Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to punchie, 10-21-2002 05:45:40  
That's where the stalk chopper does a good job of tenderizing the stalks. A friend uses a bale thrower, so he has pretty good tension on his stalk bales. It's not difficult raking behind the stalk chopper. I bought mine for $450.

I saw one of those flail attachments at an auction like Tim mentioned. Sold for $10. It did look cumbersom to put on, must use some hp too! JD and probably others have such an attachment for round balers too.

Anyone with livestock round-bales cornstalks around 'here'. Very common to see those bales all over the fields.

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tim[in]

10-21-2002 02:17:18




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
there used to be aa attatchment for small sqare balers to bale corn stalks. it was a flail type deal which attached to the pickup and you cut and baled directly in one pass.i think after considering the expense and hassle of attaching this, it was worth it to just go ahead and raise some wheat or oats for bedding straw.i know some also used a hesston stak hand to bale them . i think it used one of those set ups to.i personally wondered about using a silage chopper to cut and then blow them into the wagon. not sure if it coulod handle the fully dried stalks like the green ones it is designed to do.i believe new holland used to make an attachment for their small sqare balers to do this.

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paul

10-20-2002 21:59:49




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
Most folks do big rounds, but I see a couple small square folks making cornstalks around here.

I've heard of a lot of different ways of preping the stalks, none of which _I_ would try! Here, use a stalk shredder, siderake into a small windrow (1 rakewidth, or 4 rows) and bale when dry.

A stalk shredder is a heavy rotory mower. A few have windrowing flanges or cross augers, but most need sideraking behind them.

Some folks run a moco/haybine in the stalks making windrows, some just bale behind the combine where the husks fell & pick up what is loose, some use a bushhog. Don't like any of these ideas for various reasons, mostly because it is hard on the moco or baler! :)

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LH

10-20-2002 20:46:17




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 Re: Baling corn stalks in reply to Bob J, 10-20-2002 19:46:46  
I've never baled cornstalks, but most folks I se doing it are using round balers, then feeding the stalks to cattle and using some for bedding.



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