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Doug

11-04-2002 11:54:34




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Does anyone out ther have any knowledge or experience with small bale accumulators and grab forks. From what I can tell you pull the accumulator behind the baler and it forms a group of 8 bales (4wide x 2 long). You then pick up the groups with a grab fork that replaces your loader bucket that picks up the 8 bales at a time. It looks like it would work well for my operation. Any info would be helpful

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Glendon Kuhns

11-17-2005 08:10:49




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 Re: hay accumulators in reply to Doug, 11-04-2002 11:54:34  
Check out our accumulator. It uses no hydraulics or electronics. It uses gravity and springs, so it is completly self contained and fully automatic.

We are a new company and quite small, but we have a great product that was invented by my dad, Kenny, a few years ago and we have been majorly improving it since. We raise between 40,000 to 50,000 bales a year for horses, and we have been using our own accumulator for the last 4 years. We think that it's the greatest.

check us out at www.kuhnsmfg.com

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troy

07-11-2004 19:30:11




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 Re: hay accumulators in reply to Doug, 11-04-2002 11:54:34  
This year we bought all new equipment. We bought a Steffen 10 bale accumulator. This is pulled behind the baler. It's all hydraulic controlled, but works great. We baled 40,000 bales this year with it. It groups these bales in a pile of 5 wide, and 2 long. This is the exact length needed to load van trailors. We then load up van trailors in the field. It works great!



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CharlieKS

11-09-2002 19:22:42




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 Re: hay accumulators in reply to Doug, 11-04-2002 11:54:34  
Hi Doug. I have a Farmhand 8 bale accumulator and a Farmhand 8 bale clamp. They are execllent for a one man operation. They save lots of time and energy. They are pretty popular here in Kansas. An accumulator and clamp in good condition will go for $1200 to $2000. There are other brands that are a lot more expensive. Some do 8 bales and some do 10 bales. Good Farmhand units are getting harder to locate, they have been out of business for quite a long time, but the brands that are still being produced are a lot more expensive.

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what is a hay accumulator

11-05-2002 09:13:16




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 Re: hay accumulators in reply to Doug, 11-04-2002 11:54:34  
i am not sure i understand exactly what a hay accumulator is, does anyone have a picture of one? i had originaly thought they were what people around here call a bale sled, the you drag behind the bailer and then it fills up with a half dozen or so bails and then you release the door on the back and it releases them into a little pile on the ground.



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spencer stringer

02-18-2004 18:39:49




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 Re: Re: hay accumulators in reply to what is a hay accumulator, 11-05-2002 09:13:16  
yes , that is what it is but it hooks up behing a baler. Hay traveled down it and then it is flipped and when it finally got full it was tillted back and then it released up to 12 bales of hay and then some with a retriver on the boom of a tractor picks it up loades it on a hay trailer.



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Rick

11-05-2002 11:05:42




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 Re: Re: hay accumulators in reply to what is a hay accumulator, 11-05-2002 09:13:16  
Doug,You kinda got the idea. The one I have is like a small flatbed trailer. It design for ten bales flipped on edge by a hyd arm and when has ten it tilts to unload. Then pick pile up with grapple on a loader. Some units do eight flat some 10 on edge, some do tie package. It all depends on wht you want. Look under bale accumulators in google search and you will find different picture,brands. E-mail me if need more info. They do work really slick once you get them set.

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mark ct

11-05-2002 12:40:29




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 Re: Re: Re: hay accumulators in reply to Rick, 11-05-2002 11:05:42  
i did a google search and i see what you mean. i had heard of the same basic idea but it was just like 2 pipe runners running lengthwise with 2 more pipes as rails next to them to keep the bales from slidding off the side, when you opened the door on the back they all slid out in a row. sounds like the same idea just a different style.



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Rick

11-05-2002 05:48:09




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 Re: hay accumulators in reply to Doug, 11-04-2002 11:54:34  
Yes I use grapple and accumulator for two seasons and I love it. The New Holland bale wagons in my setup couldn't haul enough per load. It was to much running and barns had to be larger. Also if you deliver hay to customers you had to hand load again.I like grapple amd accumulator in my case. I have modified mine and now its really slick to use. Call 319-257-6764 for all the tricks



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david

11-05-2002 04:58:01




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 Re: hay accumulators in reply to Doug, 11-04-2002 11:54:34  
There are a few in my area. I really researched them about 5 years ago. If I planned to continue with square bales I either had to 1. Keep a crew of Mexicans all summer, 2. Get an accumulator, 3. Get an automatic bale wagon. After much research, 5 trips out west, and 3 to western Canada I decided that a NH bale wagon fit my needs better. Accumulators had the following advanges: less sophisticated to operate and maintain, didn't need a skilled second operator (don't have to have one with the bale wagon but I can't bring myself to drop 1600 bales on Sunday afternoon and then go back and stack), didn't need o convert exisitng buildings. Disadvantages I saw were higher cost (good used bale wagon for $5000 plus a 1200 mile road trip), needed a lot more flat wagons (need at least 8 (have 3)to get one days production in the barn), need to convert barns for more overhead clearence, maintaining 32 tires on flat wagons v. 4 on bale wagon, still have to pull wagons out and unload somewhere. If I used the forks then I would be filling up space for my next cutting, if I didn't I still have to hand rick it in the barn sheds. Other operators seem really pleased with their accumulators. I'm pleased with my choice. For $6000.00 in wagon and road trip, $3500 for a shed built on a tobacco barn for 2000 bales, and another $1000 labor convertingmy tobacco and hay barns I can load, stack, and "rick" in the dry 210 bales an hour.

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