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Hay Racks , The Real Story

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Michael Soldan

12-29-2002 06:14:08




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Well I read the hay rack discussion and I thought I would throw in another perspective. When I was a child about 50 years ago we had a new hay rack. It was a 8x16 flat rack with two steel tracks the length of the rack. These tracks were centered about 4 feet apart on the rack. On top of the track set a half rack 8x8 with a ladder at the front of it. I define a ladder as two verticle supports with horizontal slats to contain the hay. Sling ropes hung on the ladder. The hayloader was hooked behind the wagon and the sling ropes were carefully laid out from the top of the half rack down across its length to the end of the rack. The builder arranged the hay as it came over the top of the rear ladder that was secured to the 8x16 bottom. When the half rack was full of hay. The loader stopped while the man building the load pulled up the sling ropes from the bottom end and tied them over the bundles on the half rack. Then he pulled a pin and shoved the half rack to the front of the wagon. Now the back half was clear to load and again he laid out the slings on the floor connecting them to the back ladder.The sling ropes were laid about two feet apart. The wagon was then loaded and headed to the barn. Once up inside the 4 bundles that now made up the load were mowed away in an ingenious way.The slings on each bundle were hooked to a block and tackle on the bottom of a steel trolley mounted on a track at the top of the barn. The horses were unhooked from the wagon and hooked to the block and tackle . As the team went down the barn hill the bundle of hay was pulled up to the rafters where it then ran across the track to the mow. When it was exactly where the farmer wanted it he pulled the trip rope and the bundle fell into the mow. The team backed up and hooked the next bundle...Jeesh that's how we hayed when I was a kid..hell of a way. I had a neighbour who used to say they should have invented balers before they invented hay loaders!!..and that's what a hay rack is in Huron County , Southern Ontario Canada.....Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Okla/Kans Bill

12-31-2002 19:05:23




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 Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-29-2002 06:14:08  

My Grandad, on his place there was a 4oft long hog house about 20ft from the front of the barn. Consequently he couldnt put an elevator in that way, and the barn had a lean to shed attached to the back, so he couldnt go that way either with an elevator so he stuck with the tope and hooks. He could take up 8 bales at a time, and I thought it was great as beinside and doing the stacking you never got to dusty as the dust would have plenty of time to cleart before the next load came up. I was asmatic and si I appricated that a lot. I was around 8 and my cousin , a koriean war vet, now dead of old age, was a big tough kid then. They let me run the trip rope. Well I wanted to do a good job, so I kickefd the excess rope away and wrapped the rope around my hands. Well when my uncle inside holloerd trip I yanked. not enough. I yanked again, byt by then the rope was far enougn inside I couldnt get a good pull down. I didnt yank again, i was heading up the side of the barn. My cousin grabbed me raised me up and with the other hand yanked the rope. Later, when we was stacking and a load would dump, we wpould stack it and when the ropes would egin to tighten, grab hold and they would take us clear to the top of the barn(my brother and me). when we let go they would snap hard rither the rail or the barn roof. Once, my grandad thought the rope was being cut on one of the pullys. He came into the barn to see me up 40ft on the top of the barn (LET GO OF THE G_____ _ ROPE) which I did.

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Okla/Kans Bill

12-31-2002 19:04:09




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 Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-29-2002 06:14:08  

My Grandad, on his place there was a 4oft long hog house about 20ft from the front of the barn. Consequently he couldnt put an elevator in that way, and the barn had a lean to shed attached to the back, so he couldnt go that way either with an elevator so he stuck with the tope and hooks. He could take up 8 bales at a time, and I thought it was great as beinside and doing the stacking you never got to dusty as the dust would have plenty of time to cleart before the next load came up. I was asmatic and si I appricated that a lot. I was around 8 and my cousin , a koriean war vet, now dead of old age, was a big tough kid then. They let me run the trip rope. Well I wanted to do a good job, so I kickefd the excess rope away and wrapped the rope around my hands. Well when my uncle inside holloerd trip I yanked. not enough. I yanked again, byt by then the rope was far enougn inside I couldnt get a good pull down. I didnt yank again, i was heading up the side of the barn. My cousin grabbed me raised me up and with the other hand yanked the rope. Later, when we was stacking and a load would dump, we wpould stack it and when the ropes would egin to tighten, grab hold and they would take us clear to the top of the barn(my brother and me). when we let go they would snap hard rither the rail or the barn roof. Once, my grandad thought the rope was being cut on one of the pullys. He came into the barn to see me up 40ft on the top of the barn (LET GO OF THE G_____ _ ROPE) which I did.

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Lyle Oakes

12-30-2002 19:32:02




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 Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-29-2002 06:14:08  
I have a blower type machine, that was used to blow loose dry hay up into the hay mow with out chopping it. It has no way to chop it. It was used when they brought hay into the barn with a buck rake. All you had to do was pitch it toward the suction pipe, that was just above the table. The table was about ground level and about 3 feet wide, and about 4 feet long. We tried it at our show this year and it really blew the material. This machine has the name and manufacture cast into the metal. It is called the "HAYCLONE', was made by the Wonstetler Co. in Columbianna, Ohio. I can't find any info on this co. or machine. I even travled to Columbianna, Ohio to find info as I have never seen another machine like it. If anyone knows anything about one of these please E-MAIL me. Thanks

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Farmered

12-30-2002 21:21:55




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 Re: Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Lyle Oakes, 12-30-2002 19:32:02  
Lyle, I remember a long hay blower that a neighbor had. It was a home made job that was basically the rear end of a big threshing machine.
Worked real good too. Farmered



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Farmer Gene (WI)

12-29-2002 08:10:29




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 Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-29-2002 06:14:08  
We used to put hay up loose too, It was me & my brothers job to take the hay away from the unloader and stack on the slings. our slings went across the width of the hayrack. Once when we were unloading, my brother got one of the sling ropes on the wrong side of the rack braces and before we could get my dad and the horses stopped the hayrack was half way up the side of the barn, sure caught heck about that. Wasn't much fun throwing down hay in the winter either, that "loose" hay could sure get packed. Still got some of those slings around here somewhere.

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Farmered

12-30-2002 21:07:55




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 Re: Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Farmer Gene (WI), 12-29-2002 08:10:29  
We didn't use slings but we had a grapple fork.
I can remember someone setting the fork a little too deep and getting a tine through the rack with the same result that you describe. Later we even used the grapple with bales but it was pretty slow at 8 bales per lift. Farmered



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Joe C Al

12-30-2002 07:44:55




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 Re: Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Farmer Gene (WI), 12-29-2002 08:10:29  
When I was young late 40's early 50's our hay handly equipment consist of a 2 horse wagon with a home made hay rack a mule drawn sikle mower a mule drown rake and a couple of pitch fork's. Boy was that the good old day's.



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Tim(nj)

12-29-2002 08:44:02




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 Re: Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Farmer Gene (WI), 12-29-2002 08:10:29  
I still have the hay saws that were used to cut chunks out of the loose stacks in our barn. My grandfather got away from loose hay as soon as he could, with a new JD 116W baler in 1946 (long before my time). But there was a farmer near here who put hay up loose for his cows with an old New Idea hay loader as late as 1979. Why he never got a baler, I don't know. His son finally bought a used New Holland baler that year.

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jim

12-29-2002 17:01:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to Tim(nj), 12-29-2002 08:44:02  
Hey (Hay) did any of you experience using a "Buck Rake" when handling loose hay. Now there was a real experience. It also taught a lot of we young bucks how to drive as well.



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bob`

12-29-2002 17:21:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hay Racks , The Real Story in reply to jim, 12-29-2002 17:01:55  
my father in law manufactered a hay buck stacker that he had invented. still have some paapers on it. also made a mechical loader that ran off car rear end mounted under tractor pulling cables to the loader. worked real well.



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