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Hammermill and pine needles small branches

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Chili Tractor M

01-07-2003 22:08:30




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I have a Farmall A and can buy a hammermill from the man I got the tractor from. We have a place in the mountains and need to mulch long pine needles and small scrub oak and pine tree branches (up to 1/2 to 3/4 inch) for fire prevention. Would a belt driven hammermill work for this purpose??? Thank you for any input.




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Michael Soldan

01-09-2003 06:59:45




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 Re: hammermill and pine needles small branches in reply to Chili Tractor Man, 01-07-2003 22:08:30  
Chili, I solved my problem with a chipper shredder that I saw advertised for sale. The guy bought it and only used it as few times, the set screw on the clutch came loose and the centrifigal clutch came apart, he got it repaired and it came apart again so he had enough and he sold it for $200( they are about$800 new). I put the clutch back together and saw that there was nothing preventing it from slidding back on the shaft so I cut a piece of garden hose 3 inches long stuck it on and have used it extensively ever since. I grind up wheelbarrows full of pine cones, branches and even leaves, then I bag it up and use it for compost on my garden. I usually let it sit for a year or so to decompose. It will chew up branches up to 3 inches in diameter. There are two screens so you can have a real fine grind or a courser grin,, the fine grind is too fine I think. I have also used it to crack corn in the barn..I dump a bushel of corn in slowly and it comes out the bottom in small pieces..not chop but good easily digestable pieces for the cattle. This is only a suggestion but a small chipper shredder may be just what you need, runs on a 5 horse Briggs and Stratton...may be cheaper than a hammmermill...Mike In Exeter Ontario

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Hal/WA

01-08-2003 19:25:36




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 Re: hammermill and pine needles small branches in reply to Chili Tractor Man, 01-07-2003 22:08:30  
I don't know how well a hammermill would work, but I do know it would be a lot of work handling the material and when you were done, the fuel would still be there, so the fire danger would still be there.

I would find out what it takes to legally burn the needles and branches when fire dange is very low or nonexistant. In my area, you have to get a DNR fire permit and follow their regulations, though none of them are unreasonable. I burn during the cool, wet months or during the winter. I would prefer to burn when there is snow on the ground, but we have not had much this year, at least so far...

I find that it works well to pile brush, branches and whatnot in an area where the digging is easy so I can make a fireline and also where the smoke and heat will not harm living trees. When I get an area cleaned up and piled, I cover part of the pile with one of those cheap plastic tarps, so it will be easier to get the pile to burn when the area is wet. I weight the tarps down with branches or even rocks.

When I can burn legally and safely, I remove the tarp and light the dry part of the pile, usually with a big propane torch or weed burner I have. Using this method I have had good success in getting a clean burn both from a standpoint of getting rid of the fire load and also making minimal smoke.

When to burn is a judgment call. You want there to be a ZERO chance of the fire getting away from you, so you want the area to be quite wet and the winds near calm. Yet you don't want to wait until the untarped part of your pile is so wet that it won't burn properly. In my area this usually means waiting until there have been several heavy Fall rains. I usually try to burn during a rainy or snowy period.

By the way, if your property is in a pine woods, make sure that your roofs are made of a nonflammable product. Composition is OK, but I like metal better. The chances of a fire going through a pine woods is very great. You want to have a large defensible space. It only takes once.....

Good luck, I have been burning piles off and on for several weeks.

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Hal/WA

01-08-2003 19:20:32




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 Re: hammermill and pine needles small branches in reply to Chili Tractor Man, 01-07-2003 22:08:30  
I don't know how well a hammermill would work, but I do know it would be a lot of work handling the material and when you were done, the fuel would still be there, so the fire danger would still be there.

I would find out what it takes to legally burn the needles and branches when fire dange is very low or nonexistant. In my area, you have to get a DNR fire permit and follow their regulations, though none of them are unreasonable. I burn during the cool, wet months or during the winter. I would prefer to burn when there is snow on the ground, but we have not had much this year, at least so far...

I find that it works well to pile brush, branches and whatnot in an area where the digging is easy so I can make a fireline and also where the smoke and heat will not harm living trees. When I get an area cleaned up and piled, I cover part of the pile with one of those cheap plastic tarps, so it will be easier to get the pile to burn when the area is wet. I weight the tarps down with branches or even rocks.

When I can burn legally and safely, I remove the tarp and light the dry part of the pile, usually with a big propane torch or weed burner I have. Using this method I have had good success in getting a clean burn both from a standpoint of getting rid of the fire load and also making minimal smoke.

When to burn is a judgment call. You want there to be a ZERO chance of the fire getting away from you, so you want the area to be quite wet and the winds near calm. Yet you don't want to wait until the untarped part of your pile is so wet that it won't burn properly. In my area this usually means waiting until there have been several heavy Fall rains. I usually try to burn during a rainy or snowy period.

By the way, if your property is in a pine woods, make sure that your roofs are made of a nonflammable product. Composition is OK, but I like metal better. The chances of a fire going through a pine woods is very great. You want to have a large defensible space. It only takes once.....

Good luck, I have been burning piles off and on for several weeks.

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One Post Would Have Been Fine !

01-07-2003 23:41:14




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 Re: hammermill and pine needles small branches in reply to Chili Tractor Man, 01-07-2003 22:08:30  
sammy the RED ;o]



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Chili Tractor Man

01-08-2003 15:48:07




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 Re: Re: hammermill and pine needles small branches in reply to One Post Would Have Been Fine !, 01-07-2003 23:41:14  
This was my first time out on the Discussion Forum and when posting I didn't get confirmation that it had posted so I kept trying.....sorry about that - now I know!



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