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Kelly C

01-14-2003 11:58:42

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I went and took a quick look at 2 of them ( its to cold to hang around to long)
A John Deere model I think it was a 60 or something like that. Also a New Idea model. Not sure of the Model #.
I could go back with a papper and pen if needed.
Just want some general things about them for now.
He wants $250 each for them so I was leaning to the JD cause I am sure I can get parts although I may not buy them any way after the price.
What you all know about crimpers?
Not going to fork out the bucks for a haybine this year maybe after I get a Bigger tractor. I have a H now.

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chief 83

01-15-2003 19:40:59

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

I've got one that I would give away. When I used it and have not for the last 5 years it either plugged up and I'd spend 30 minutes cutting the loose hay free or it would set something on fire! As you can tell by my name, that did not sit real well. I've got a tedder on order for this season...

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chaney creek

01-22-2003 18:23:19

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Re: Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to chief 83, 01-15-2003 19:40:59

I bought one for fifty dollars, put a new u-joint on it and a pto shaft, two tires and rim used and went to crimping with a little help from Peter Latta on this site. He sent me the instructions on using it. Have found that if you go too fast it starts winding it around the rollers. I am pretty well satisfied as it makes the hay cure faster here in humid south Louisiana.

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Bret

01-15-2003 05:59:01

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

If you're not going to spring for a haybine, then get a tedder. Crimpers were the missing link between a sickle bar mower and a haybine. They died out cause they didn't work real hot except on perfectly level ground, with no big clumps of hay. I've got a NH crimper that just sits there. I wouldn't pay more than $50.00 for a brand new one. That being said- why are you waiting to get a haybine? I thought the same as you, that I needed a "bigger" tractor to run a haybine. Wrong. I bought a 7 foot NH with a one way hyd. cylinder. I run it with a 800 Ford and can get by with a VAC Case if I have to. Yeah you need at least one hydraulic line, but the diference between a haybine and any other tool is like night and day. I follow the haybine with a tedder and make NICE hay. I know an H would handle a seven footer and my next door neighbor ran a 9 foot haybine with a Cockshutt 30 with no problem, although the Cocokshutt did have live PTO.

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Kelly C

01-15-2003 11:10:35

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Re: Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Bret, 01-15-2003 05:59:01

I think I will be getting a haybine some time.
The price is just out of my budget for right now.
The cheapest I have seen for a haybine was a beat NH 7' for $1500.

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Bret

01-15-2003 05:53:59

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

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David T

01-14-2003 19:47:19

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

I agree with the other David. I'm also from Ky.We use a tedder behind our disc mower.Also use it behind our haybine in heavy crops,clover,alfafa,etc. Works well if you get hay rained on.We did have a M.F.crimper 25 years ago, spent more time with a knife cutting hay out of rollers than crimping hay.It will make you say a few choice words. I would leave the crimper alone and get a tedder.May cost a little more but would be more useful.Hope you have good luck with whatever you decide. David

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Jim in Michigan

01-14-2003 18:10:14

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

Kelly where are you at,,,,I have 2 JD Crimpers, on is in working order other os parts.,..I would sell them for way less then what he is asking...I am not sure what model and I thinnk a tire may be needed...E mail me if interested....Jim

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01-14-2003 15:19:58

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

Are you asking about the crimper you use with a mower? If you are. I'll tell you of the best one of all! The John Deere 22. Before we had the John Deere 22 we had a New Holland 404 crusher. JUNK!!

The 22 is the last crimper John Deere made. The John Deere 32 is a crusher. Also the same age. Before the 22 and 32 they had the 21 and 31.

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jim

01-14-2003 15:00:39

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

Just a word of advice - don't assume that because it's a Deere that parts will automatically be available. They are obsoleting a lot of parts for older,low volume machines like that crimper.

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paul

01-14-2003 12:36:32

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

I never used one, but if you are going to get a haybine in a year or 2, you could go without the crimper & save the money. I hear they are not the most fun to use.

If you buy one, it's all about the rolls. Buy the one with the best rolls, as you _won't_ be replacing those, they are spendy! :)

--->Paul

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Kelly C

01-14-2003 13:38:45

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Re: Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to paul, 01-14-2003 12:36:32

I used one as a kid. I remember always having to unplug it.
These two both have a metal roller on the bottom and what looks like tire material on the top roller.
I think Gramps just used it when he had Alfalfa hay. The clover hay we didnt need it.
Dang that was a long time ago.

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david

01-14-2003 12:13:44

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Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to Kelly C, 01-14-2003 11:58:42

Kelly C,

You asked for opinions so here goes; I see no benefit to the crimper. My dad and I put up well over 1000 rolls (1899 last year, plus 400 rolls of baleage) and 10,000 square bales. Only use disc mowers and tedders (plus bar rakes and balers, of course). A tedder is a much more multifunction tool. When used properly they will mimic the action of a conditioner plus allow you to spread rained on windrows and turn curing hay. We do use a haybine for baleage, but only b/c of the swathing capability. Most people want to run the tedder after the hay dries. If you will ted immediately after mowing it fractures and bruises the stem. If I can ted immediately I can save a full day curing, if I wait until has fully wilted I just save what I would save tedding on the last day (I ted alfalfa twice, grass once). Even in a humid environment (Kentucky) I can usually cut timothy one day and ted, then rake about 2:00 the next, bale about 4:00. Alfalfa needs 1 or 2 additional days, depends on the grass content of the stand (alfalfa/grass bales 1 day sooner than pure alfalfa).

David

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Roy in UK

01-14-2003 23:29:53

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Re: Re: I need opinions on crimpers. in reply to david, 01-14-2003 12:13:44

Tedder type mower conditioners (rotary tines which spin the crop against a stationary bar) are popular here in the UK but crimpers never did catch on. I dont think a British farmer would touch one with a barge pole!

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