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Finish mowers pros or cons needed.

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Joe D.

02-08-2003 10:30:11




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Going to buy a finish mower to mow 7 acres with pretty flat sandy soil and am just baffled when I look at the different types and prices.
I am sure I’m not going to pay over $1100 before taxes for a 5-foot rear discharge finish mower, so North Central Florida that drops Land Pride $1600+, Bush hug 1300+, BEFCO $1300 and Rhino $1300.
I do have choices of:
SITREX
SICMA
SOVEMA

To break it down further:
Do I want spring belt idlers or manual belt adjust and hard or soft tires?

Also when you look at the pictures on the Internet a lot of the unnamed brands look just like the three Italian made mowers like:

First Choice / Sicma Sovema / LMC

I could be wrong though.

I do not want to make a bad decision here more experienced help need and appreciated

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Pat

02-11-2003 13:50:12




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
Joe D.,

I use a john deere 272, which is a side dis-chg. 6' unit.

Likes-
1)Solid tires-no flats-just keep them greased!

2)Parts availability


Dislikes-

1)only two swivel wheels. resulting in a non full-floating mower. it scalps the ground constantly in the WV hills I live in.

2)ridgid lower lift links. resulting in scalping on twisty ground.

3)belt cover is bolted on-hard to get to belts.

4)non-removable discharge chute (side hits fruit trees and and would be hard to repair if it bent


(A friend of mine has a brand that has 2 hand tighten nuts that hold down a plastic belt cover and is full-floating-not sure of brand, but that will be my next one!(maroon in color))

Later, Pat

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Jim WI

02-10-2003 10:25:02




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
I use a 6-foot KingKutter behind a 2N. Mows fine and seems to hold up OK.

About the only time I find myself wishing for a rear-discharge is if it rains pretty steady for a week or so and the grass gets real high. At that point, the side discharge tends to clog. If KK made a rear-discharge, I'd be interested.



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Robert in W. Mi.

02-09-2003 12:01:19




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
I'm with the Woods camp. I haven't looked at mowers in the last 6 months or so, but at that time Woods rear discharge still looked like the mower to own, and i wouldn't have a new side discharge mower no matter who made it. The rear discharge finish mowers use less hp and less fuel too. (because they get rid of the grass much faster) If your tractor has enough hp, i'd also go with a 6' model. I have converted several mowers from side discharge to rear, and it is a BIG improvement! Robert

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Roger in SeMO

02-09-2003 11:47:19




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
I have used a Woods 6 foot side discharge mower to mow our 7 acre "yard" for the past 10 years. In that time I have used 3 sets of blades and 3 belts. Replaced my first spindle this summer, after hooking it on a stump. When I replace it, it will be an other Woods. Go with the 6 foot, it will mow out your tracks, and if the grass is to tall, just take half passes. Good Luck, Roger Allgood.



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Skinner

02-09-2003 07:53:25




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
I bought a 6' gas powered finishing mower from TSC about 4 years ago to mow 5 acres. It works terrific. At the time, I did not have a tractor so I pulled it behing the mower or 4 wheeler. is a Swisher and it was normally around $1400 but I bought mine for $900. TSC here buys implements by the bulk once a year, and clear out all of their old implements. They have 3 of them in Victoria TX right now for $800 each. The paint is faded bad, but other than that they should be fine. Since I purchased my tractor, I bought a KingKutter from TSC and it doesn't perform worth a hoot. Seems to me they have the blades turning way too slow and it piles grass up real bad. I contacted KingKutter and told them what was happening and they asked me to get some info for them and email them back. Never did hear back from them. They did state that they make a cheap version for TSC that should be labeled as a TSC Brand, not KingKutter.

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Nellie

02-09-2003 04:49:33




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
Joe, I had a Woods for 15 years and I really beat it, mowed pasture some years. It was not cost effective to start replacing spindles etc. I bought an almost new Italian 5' model last year. This what I noticed. The Italian model I have is much louder and just slightly bends the grass down a little while cutting- neither a big issue for me. My land does not have a flat portion to it, both models went over the knolls and dips about the same. My Woods dealer closed down so I would or will have to go through the Internet to buy parts anyway and when the local dealer was open they had to always order anyway. Tires, the Woods model had solid tires and I had to replace an average of 1.5 per year at $45 @. Just because they are solid doesn’t mean they last forever. I don’t expect the Italian model to last like the Woods did but I do like it and have no regrets

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Joe D

02-10-2003 13:32:13




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 Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Nellie, 02-09-2003 04:49:33  
Which Italian made model?
Thanks Joe



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Burrhead

02-08-2003 16:20:10




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 Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Joe D., 02-08-2003 10:30:11  
Kingkutter makes a dang good cheaper model.

I know fellers holler that ye git what ye paid for but in finish mowers that theory is pure horse manure.

We have Woods, Bushhog, and Progressive at the farm. They all break down the same and cost is very expensive for parts for all 3.

I bought a Kingkutter for my own personal use and it has been trouble free for 2-3 years now. Not bad when you consider the KK cuts around 12 acres every week from March til November with teenager operators most of the time.

Whatever you buy I would recommend the spring tensioners

Tractor Supply has the KingKutter brand and a 6' was $1099 last spring when my son bought one.

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Bill in TN

02-09-2003 05:06:22




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 Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Burrhead, 02-08-2003 16:20:10  
I've had the kingkutter 5' starting on my 3rd year. I've had to replace one spindle, but bent it while mowing a rough hill, to fast. Replaced the belt last fall. (spindle was around $35, and the belt was around $25, so parts are resonable)Ordered both from the factory, got the parts in less than 2 days going ups ground. Has air in the tires, and have to repair or replace a tube about once a year. Simple to work on... I wish I'd gotten the 6' as the five doesn't cut the tracks from the tire. I think it's a pretty good machine for the money.

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Burrhead

02-09-2003 07:32:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Bill in TN, 02-09-2003 05:06:22  
Bill Harbor Freight has some tire sealer named "Slime".

It cost about $10-$12 a bottle. If you'll get a bottle of that stuff and put a quarter of the bottle into each tire you might not ever have to fix another mower tire.

We have a lot of spurs & briars in my neck of the woods. I always had flat trouble with my tractors and mowers until somebody told me about the Slime.

After I added the Slime I have never had another flat. I also add it to lowboy and stock trailer tires that used to go flat when the trailers were left sitting for long periods. It worked to stop leak downs for those tires too.

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Frank M.

02-09-2003 08:58:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Burrhead, 02-09-2003 07:32:52  
I agree that Slime is good for use in old tires or ones that are used in off road applcations. If you ever have to have one patched, your tireman will hate you. LOL Don't run it in car or truck tires, and expect them to be balanced, though.



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Bill in TN

02-09-2003 12:59:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Frank M., 02-09-2003 08:58:41  
I've heard a lot of pros and con's on slime.....I buy tubes for the kingkutter for about 6 bucks....easy to change.....I'm starting to get things cleaned up pretty good, so hopefully I won't have that kind of problem to much longer. Thanks for the information.....I'll probably pick up a can next time I see it in the store....still not sure if I'll use it....Bill



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Bob-East TN

02-10-2003 16:59:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Bill in TN, 02-09-2003 12:59:18  
Hi! Gang, I mowed about 8-10 acres around the old home place for years with a King Kutter 6. I had minimal problems. A spindle bearing about every two years. The thing has three blades that are cheap to buy and the bearings are available at the local auto parts store. The thing to remember when buying King Kutter is that the gearbox and the bearing spindles are shipped DRY and must be filled prior to use. The gearbox is obivous, however, the whole bearing spindle assembly is DRY and to lube the three it takes a tube of grease or more. It cost me a bearing when the thing was new before I discovered I had not lubed properly.
My neighbor decided he had to have the KK 6 footer and I rushed out to Lady & Son Equipment to purchase the latest model KK 7ft. with double wide spindle belt and heavier gauge blades. The older models are built like tanks with boiler plate belt covers, this new model has a light weight plastic cover a much needed improvement.
The 7 footer is also a side discharge machine, I have not had problems with grass discharge, even with the seven foot model. I pulled both mowers with a 1962 MF50. I run the thing in low range third gear with Hi Multi-Power at 1650 rpms. I just sit back and drive. Overall a sturdy reliable mower, lube regularly.

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Burrhead

02-10-2003 18:16:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Finish mowers pros or cons needed. in reply to Bob-East TN, 02-10-2003 16:59:01  
Bob you hit the nail on the head there.

No matter what kind of equipment a feller uses it won't ever be any better than the maintenance.

I grease my KK with marine lube after every use and about ever 2-3 cuttings I break the shields away and power wash the rails and deck.



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