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Baling Question?

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C.C.

05-26-1999 22:37:12




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As some of you know I bought my first baler this year, a NH 565. I've spent almost all of my years on this great earth looking at the back end of one and now for the first time I'm looking at the front. As I learned(quickly) big difference. I baled a few bales the other day more or less for the experince. I had several bales curl up(like older NH baler do sometimes) and I had some end up way long. My windrows were not very big as it was real light hay and wasn't baling that much to begin with. We had some rain and it might have been just a little damp, but not to bad. I know foward speed can effect bale length so first I tried second gear, then first. I got about the same results with both, maybe a little better in second. Was I going to slow? Any thoughts? Thanks Casey

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TomH

05-28-1999 04:11:33




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 Re: Baling Question? in reply to C.C., 05-26-1999 22:37:12  
Curled bales usually are caused by not enough hay in the chamber, so the bigger windrows suggested by others should help. Also it would be worth your time to sharpen the slicing knives. Dull knives pull the hay to that side and add a lot of extra stress on the machine. Sharpen the knotter knives also, the sharper both sets of knives are the better.



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Tim(ny)

05-27-1999 06:03:40




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 Re: Baling Question? in reply to C.C., 05-26-1999 22:37:12  
Modern bailers like yours are made to maximize production and are most happy eating lots of hay. Make big windrows and don't be afraid to sock it to 'er. Ground speed matters, but not as much as windrow size. You'll develop a feeling(hearing) for how much is too much. The first few bales will always be strange until you fill the chute and build up back pressure. The big screws at the back will determine how much back pressure. Adjust these to get the right weight and bale tightness. Make your bales as tight as you can without being too tight. What's too tight? They break. You may want to readjust from day to day because of changing hay and moisture conditions. The spiked wheel behind the knotter leads to an adjustable trip device that determines the bale length. Be sure this is in good working order and you should get uniform length. Hay knives that are dull or out of adjustment can also affect bale shape. The owners manual has good advice on all of this. Try to get one if you don't have one. I think most of your problem is not feeding it enough.

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C.C.

05-27-1999 21:32:51




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 Re: Re: Baling Question? in reply to Tim(ny), 05-27-1999 06:03:40  
Tim,
thanks for the reply. My windrows were small and I think that was most of my problem. I've played with the tension springs and got them adjusted about right, The knotter trip arm and wheel are in order. Although it might be set a little long for my liking. The hay knife might be a little dull, but not bad. I cut 7 acres today of really thick stuff(orchard grass, timothy, clover, and fescue). I'm going to rake pretty big windrows and see what happens. Again, thanks for the reply. Casey

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Dick Davis

05-27-1999 03:43:37




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 Re: Baling Question? in reply to C.C., 05-26-1999 22:37:12  
Not familiar with a 565 baler but assume it is PTO, twine, with top knotters? (Mine is a NH 80, wire, side twisters with Wisconsin V-4 engine, but some thing are constant). You are on the right track by looking at the windrow construction and ground speed - both affect baler performance. Curling is sometimes caused by uneven tensioning on the chamber. The chamber might be rusty or even distorted which sometimes requires one side's tightener to be turned a couple twists more than the other to achieve square bales. Check the string tension and see if you can determine one more taut than the other. If not you might just experiment. If the bales are overly tight they tend to bend upon hitting the ground, how is your chute, does it place the bales on the ground as smoothly as possible? If you are baling small windrows at a slow speed the length of the bales should be very uniform. E-mail me with more details, good luck. Dick

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C.C.

05-27-1999 21:25:50




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 Re: Re: Baling Question? in reply to Dick Davis, 05-27-1999 03:43:37  
Dick,
Thanks for the reply. The 565 is a newer machine. I just bought this one and it's about 4 years old. I've played with the bale tension and I think I've got it adjusted just about right. The bale chamber is smooth with hardly any rust, if any at all. I honestly think I wasn't feeding it enough hay. I had that feeling from the start, but was just looking for some more input. Again thanks for the response. Casey

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