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buckwheat

04-20-2003 01:32:33




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I am rebuilding 2 hay racks real soon. I have heard of several "preferred" ways of attaching the rack to the wagon itself. I would appreciate if you wise men would give me your opinions,....and for that matter any advice on building the rack itself! Thanks to all you fine people who use this site.




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FRANK

04-20-2003 21:22:20




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 Re: attaching hay rack to wagon in reply to buckwheat, 04-20-2003 01:32:33  
I BUILT FOUR WAGONS. I USED C CHANNEL FOR THE RAILS AND FOR THE CROSS PCS I USED 2X6'S ON FOUR FOOT CENTERS. I USED 1X1 ANGLE IRON BOLTED ANGLE TO CROSS MENBERS AND TO THE RAILS CHAIN THE ONE CORNER TO THE RUNNING GEAR. THE FLOOR 2X10' PRESSURE TREATED. AFTER THE SUMMER I PAINTED THE FLOOR AND PUT SAND ON IT WHILE THE PAINT WAS STILL WET. THE HAY RACK I USED 1'' PIPE WITH ONE UPRIGHT ON 4 FOOT TO MATCH THE CROSS PCS TOOK FLAT STOCK 2'' AND MADE U'S DRILLED HOLES IN THEM AND THE CROSS PCS TO HOLD THE PIPE TOOK THE ANGLE AND CUT SOME SMALL PCS AND WELDED THEM TO THE PIPE. THIS WILL KEEP THE PIPE IN THE POCKETS AND ON TOP OF THE FLOOR BOARDS THE BACK I BOLTED IT TO EACH SIDE AND NOT TO THE BOTTOM ALL THAT YOU HAVE TO IS PULL THE TO PINS ON THE ONE SIDE AND IT WILL SWING OPEN TO UNLOAD.THE FRONT A PIPE THAT IS HEATED HAMMERD DOWN ON THE ENDS AND WELD A BOLT ON EACH END. THEN WELD A SMALL PC OF PIPE A SIZE BIGGER THEN THE BOLT SO THE BOLT WILL FIT IN THIS WILL HOLD THE FRONT TOGATHER.

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jls

04-20-2003 18:29:53




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 Re: attaching hay rack to wagon in reply to buckwheat, 04-20-2003 01:32:33  
I just bolt the front stringer to the ear on the wagon bolster on one side in front, chain is often used on gravity wagons since they are often horsed around in mud and towed 2 or 3 at a time and they scatter real bad when you loose a tire on the tail end wagon and don't see the sparks! Most of my wagons don't have a back board since they are in the way on several of the barns I have to stack into. It just takes a while to teach the kids how to tie a stack together

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Michael Soldan

04-20-2003 11:13:54




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 Re: attaching hay rack to wagon in reply to buckwheat, 04-20-2003 01:32:33  
Buckwheat, I have built two wagons in the last two years and here is what I learned. The first wagon I got had good sills so I used one inch pressure treated and 1x3 plate around the perimeter of the rack top and bottom. This is a light wagon but it carries 120 bales real well. The second wagon I had to get new sills 10'x3" x16' and I used 2"x8" for the flooring with a 1"x3" plate around the perimeter top and bottom , bolted. This made a nice heavy wagon. I use a chain on the front corner to keep the rack from moving on the wagon and this came from the gravity wagon thing, around here farmers chain one corner only. This lets the wagon flex while the sills ride inside the wagon frame pipes so it can't go anywhere. My other wagon is similar built by my Dad in the 1950's with cedar 2"x 10"'s and it is still as good as the day he built it, we do store our wagons inside. I just got two out today, had them stacked one on top of the other. I block the bottom wagon , place the ramps and hook the top wagon to the loader and I slowly back away, easing the top wagon down the ramps and off. I could stack all three if I had to , but had room to store the extra one. I have never had a rack or a gravity box bounce off....that's my story and I'm sticking to it..... Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Bernie

04-20-2003 09:52:08




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 Re: attaching hay rack to wagon in reply to buckwheat, 04-20-2003 01:32:33  
I built my 20' wagon on a crewcab truck frame using 3x3 square tube for bunks or bolsters. The stake pockets on the bunk ends are 3 1/2x3 1/2 x3/16 wall, which 3x3 fits into loosely. I welded a plate with holes on the end of short piece of 3x3 and bolted four of them on the underside of the rack over the stake pockets. I use a loader to drop the hayrack onto the wagon. It just sits there, no bolts, and has never showed signs of tipping but you could make the "stakes" long enough to put a bolt through the bottom. HTH

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RickB

04-20-2003 03:32:04




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 Re: attaching hay rack to wagon in reply to buckwheat, 04-20-2003 01:32:33  
Bolt the stringers to the rear bolster stakes. Run chains around the front stringers and axle. leave enough slack in the chains so the axle can flex independently of the stringers, but the stringers can't slide sideways over the top of the bolster stakes when the chains are tight.



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David Bacon

04-20-2003 10:46:47




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 Re: Re: attaching hay rack to wagon in reply to RickB, 04-20-2003 03:32:04  
The chain thing is a must, also do not use pole barn nails as they are brittle and will break off. a pallet nail is good, or better yet use bolts. I am not sure of your type of bale wagon, but if you are making the type that you load bales by hand, you may want to make the one a little narrower on the back brace. This will allow you to double deck for storage in the off season. Another option is to disasemble the back brace on the bottom wagon. We a;ways tipped the back brace a little so the bales would stay on better. When using lumber on the floor it is best to crown the boards--(when you look at the end the grain of the wood it should look like a umbrela) this is to shed off the water better without sucking it in.

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