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jim H.

04-25-2003 12:57:07




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Howdy. Looked at a New Idea Cut/ditioner 272 yesterday. A strange looking orange beast. Got the paddles that cut/beat the heck out of the hay. Anybody got any experience with one? Recommendations? The guy wants $300, but the PTO shaft needs work. It's currently functional, but one of those cross bearings is about to go out. Everything else looks good. It looks like 7 foot cut, any ideas about the horsepower required??? I don't have a mowditioner, and no money for one either. Living in NW PA, I'm always looking for something to hurry up the drying process. I do have a tedder, bought at auction this year. Any opinions would be appreciated.

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- Jim H.

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Dale in IN

04-27-2003 07:44:52




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 Re: New Idea Cut/ditioner in reply to jim H., 04-25-2003 12:57:07  
Jim I have a model 270 that I have had for years. I think it is the fore runner of the 272 . It is a seven foot cut. So I think your 272 is a 7' also.
The cross in the drive shaft is only a minor problem. More than likly any NAPA store can fix you up with a new cross.
To do a good job of mowing you need to keep the leading edge of those paddles sharp and you can mow any kind of hay. If you can spin the power shaft a little faster than 540 it will do a better job of mowing. I pulled mine when I used it to cut hay with it with a M5 Moline. I now use it to just to fluff with. I cut with a JD 1219 MC and lay the hay out as flat as I can, About 6'. Then the nest morning as soon as the dew is off I take the NI in and run with a faster ground speed and a slower RPM and fluff the hay and pull the windrow in to about 3 foot. I do this with a 30 HP utility tractor. I generally start in the middle and work out so as not to run over the fluffed hay. Then if I have good drying weather I can Start baling the nest day by 1:00 PM. Some times I rake and some times I just pick it up from the fluffed windrow.
With good drying conditions I can mow on Monday morning and bale Wednesday afternoon.

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JK-NY

04-26-2003 04:44:25




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 Re: New Idea Cut/ditioner in reply to jim H., 04-25-2003 12:57:07  

A 272 is 6' cut.The other fellas that replied described pretty well how it works.That is a fair price if cross in the pto shaft is all it needs.They are good at conditioning hay,I always felt they were a little rough on alfalfa leaves. They need about 50 hp min to do a good job. Be sure to check the bearings on the roller and the knife shaft.I guess one would be ok for a small operation.the biggest thing I didnt like about them is compared to my 9' mower conditioner it seemed like you cut half the swath at almosr half the speed and used more fuel per hour to do it.The pros are - they are simple, good in hay with dew in it or down.Some raised with a crank so you didnt even need remote hydraulics.Hope this helps.

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Unimog

04-25-2003 20:00:13




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 Re: New Idea Cut/ditioner in reply to jim H., 04-25-2003 12:57:07  
I put a lot of hours on a 272 ripping hay. They
don't really cut hay unless the flails are good
and sharp. The tearing action causes the hay to
dry fast but it leaves the field looking rough.
The 272 takes a good amount of power and should
not be used anywhere there are rocks. Make sure
the roller is there as many are removed after
damage. It rides over the cut hay to push it flat
then the cut hay falls on it and the hay stubble
stands up again to help in drying the hay. The
price is right as they are not worth a hoot. If
you have a tedder I would get a sickle bar mower
and forget about the 272.

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Dave, Sherburne, NY

04-25-2003 19:47:03




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 Re: New Idea Cut/ditioner in reply to jim H., 04-25-2003 12:57:07  
They take a lot of horsepower compared with a haybine, but they pick up down hay pretty good.



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