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How to use a trailer plough?

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SAm in NS

04-27-2003 13:24:03




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I know someone that just got a 2-14 IH trailer plough (I think it may be a Little Wonder as it seems to have a fixed tailwheel). We had a few questions. First, what exactly do the two large levers (seems there's one for each bottom) do? They look like they should set the depth? How does the trip mechanism work? Thanks in advance. SAm in NS




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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

04-27-2003 19:53:24




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  
I am using a IH Little Genius 2-14 Trailer right now for the first time. Looks like I have been doing a couple things wrong with mine. Once again I learned from hanging around this site. Thank you.



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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:32:37




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  

When starting out on a new, non plowed field, lower the furrow wheel, the one on the right standing ehind the plow by raising the lever on that same side. Do the same with the other lever. Put the right hand lever 2 or 3 notches higher than the left side lever and try that. You should have a 25hp or so tractor for 2 14s. To tell what size plow youe got measure the landslide on the right hand plow share to the tip of the plowshare on the left hand side standing behind the plow. It should be either 12/14/ or 16ins apart, which tells u you have a 2-whatever distance between the two botto pull type plow. If you set the levers too high the bottoms will be too deep and the tractor wont pull it, or ave a hard time pullikng it and heat up quickly. If the field hasnt been plowed in 20 yrs, you might double disc it first with weights on the disc and wait for a good rain and then after it drys try plowing. NOW. The front furrow wheel of the plow (the right hand one standing behind the plow) is your furrow wheel. The inside of it should line up with the inside of the right hand rear tractor wheel. to do this, get them both in a straight line. place a board against the right rear tractor tire. the board has to be long enough to extend somwhat past the right rear furrow wheel. If the board touches the furrow wheel, then its lined up right. If not, youll hneed to do some adjusting on the hitch. BUT, if you have a 40s tractor, which I do not, then you can adjust the rear wheel to line up with the plow wheel. To do this, do as the above, but line the board against the furrow wheel and see how the tractor wheel lines up, if it dosent, you will have tojack up the tractor and adjust the right rear wheel. Use twist clivis just big enough to gt the hitch to go into it easily. any bigger and it will always be popping out when backing up and going again. If, when you trip your plow, and it goes up and down, then, #1 you might have put too much greease in the zerk for the trip mechanism. 5 shots a year is good. 2, the old grease is caked up and dry inside and wont let the trip cam enter the slots to hold it up or down. If this is it, you will have to take the wheel off, and then the trip mechanism and clean out all of the old grease. While doing this, you should look at the 2 little springs in behind a circxular plate. One olf them could be busted. If so, replace both of them. Hope this helps. Be careful when backing up very far as you could brake the rear wheel, or that the plow will tip over. Use a trip rope with enough length that when the plow is tripped the rope sags 1/2 way down to the hitch. fasten the rope to the plow by a wire that will come undone if the plow disengages itself from the tractor. I use 5 strands of bailing wire, twisted together to look like cable, about 1ft long. One end I hook into the holes (2) of the tractor seat. the other end I make a hook out of, and tie a knot in the rope so that the hook has somthing to hold of the rope. Then, if the plow disengages, the knpot will pull on the wire which will straighten out and release the wire. Alwys watch your plowing, especiall in trashy fields as the plow will bog up and youwill have a heck of a time getting it ceaned. Make sure that the moldboard and shares are polished clean bewfore you start as this will go some in eliminating bog ups. Clean after using and paint with polyurathane.

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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:31:23




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  

When starting out on a new, non plowed field, lower the furrow wheel, the one on the right standing ehind the plow by raising the lever on that same side. Do the same with the other lever. Put the right hand lever 2 or 3 notches higher than the left side lever and try that. You should have a 25hp or so tractor for 2 14s. To tell what size plow youe got measure the landslide on the right hand plow share to the tip of the plowshare on the left hand side standing behind the plow. It should be either 12/14/ or 16ins apart, which tells u you have a 2-whatever distance between the two botto pull type plow. If you set the levers too high the bottoms will be too deep and the tractor wont pull it, or ave a hard time pullikng it and heat up quickly. If the field hasnt been plowed in 20 yrs, you might double disc it first with weights on the disc and wait for a good rain and then after it drys try plowing. NOW. The front furrow wheel of the plow (the right hand one standing behind the plow) is your furrow wheel. The inside of it should line up with the inside of the right hand rear tractor wheel. to do this, get them both in a straight line. place a board against the right rear tractor tire. the board has to be long enough to extend somwhat past the right rear furrow wheel. If the board touches the furrow wheel, then its lined up right. If not, youll hneed to do some adjusting on the hitch. BUT, if you have a 40s tractor, which I do not, then you can adjust the rear wheel to line up with the plow wheel. To do this, do as the above, but line the board against the furrow wheel and see how the tractor wheel lines up, if it dosent, you will have tojack up the tractor and adjust the right rear wheel. Use twist clivis just big enough to gt the hitch to go into it easily. any bigger and it will always be popping out when backing up and going again. If, when you trip your plow, and it goes up and down, then, #1 you might have put too much greease in the zerk for the trip mechanism. 5 shots a year is good. 2, the old grease is caked up and dry inside and wont let the trip cam enter the slots to hold it up or down. If this is it, you will have to take the wheel off, and then the trip mechanism and clean out all of the old grease. While doing this, you should look at the 2 little springs in behind a circxular plate. One olf them could be busted. If so, replace both of them. Hope this helps. Be careful when backing up very far as you could brake the rear wheel, or that the plow will tip over. Use a trip rope with enough length that when the plow is tripped the rope sags 1/2 way down to the hitch. fasten the rope to the plow by a wire that will come undone if the plow disengages itself from the tractor. I use 5 strands of bailing wire, twisted together to look like cable, about 1ft long. One end I hook into the holes (2) of the tractor seat. the other end I make a hook out of, and tie a knot in the rope so that the hook has somthing to hold of the rope. Then, if the plow disengages, the knpot will pull on the wire which will straighten out and release the wire. Alwys watch your plowing, especiall in trashy fields as the plow will bog up and youwill have a heck of a time getting it ceaned. Make sure that the moldboard and shares are polished clean bewfore you start as this will go some in eliminating bog ups. Clean after using and paint with polyurathane.

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Dave

04-28-2003 09:22:40




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 Re: Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:31:23  
I had an Oliver two bottom trailer plow that I found to plow very well, except in sod. Discing sod first helps immensely. As for backing up I found that if you need to go more than about a foot backwards, the best way to do it was to unhook the tractor and pick the plow up with the loader and put it where I needed it!



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Dave

04-28-2003 09:18:36




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 Re: Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:31:23  
I had an Oliver two bottom trailer plow that I found to plow very well, except in sod. Discing sod first helps immensely. As for backing up I found that if you need to go more than about a foot backwards, the best way to do it was to unhook the tractor and pick the plow up with the loader and put it where I needed it!



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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:30:07




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  

When starting out on a new, non plowed field, lower the furrow wheel, the one on the right standing ehind the plow by raising the lever on that same side. Do the same with the other lever. Put the right hand lever 2 or 3 notches higher than the left side lever and try that. You should have a 25hp or so tractor for 2 14s. To tell what size plow youe got measure the landslide on the right hand plow share to the tip of the plowshare on the left hand side standing behind the plow. It should be either 12/14/ or 16ins apart, which tells u you have a 2-whatever distance between the two botto pull type plow. If you set the levers too high the bottoms will be too deep and the tractor wont pull it, or ave a hard time pullikng it and heat up quickly. If the field hasnt been plowed in 20 yrs, you might double disc it first with weights on the disc and wait for a good rain and then after it drys try plowing. NOW. The front furrow wheel of the plow (the right hand one standing behind the plow) is your furrow wheel. The inside of it should line up with the inside of the right hand rear tractor wheel. to do this, get them both in a straight line. place a board against the right rear tractor tire. the board has to be long enough to extend somwhat past the right rear furrow wheel. If the board touches the furrow wheel, then its lined up right. If not, youll hneed to do some adjusting on the hitch. BUT, if you have a 40s tractor, which I do not, then you can adjust the rear wheel to line up with the plow wheel. To do this, do as the above, but line the board against the furrow wheel and see how the tractor wheel lines up, if it dosent, you will have tojack up the tractor and adjust the right rear wheel. Use twist clivis just big enough to gt the hitch to go into it easily. any bigger and it will always be popping out when backing up and going again. If, when you trip your plow, and it goes up and down, then, #1 you might have put too much greease in the zerk for the trip mechanism. 5 shots a year is good. 2, the old grease is caked up and dry inside and wont let the trip cam enter the slots to hold it up or down. If this is it, you will have to take the wheel off, and then the trip mechanism and clean out all of the old grease. While doing this, you should look at the 2 little springs in behind a circxular plate. One olf them could be busted. If so, replace both of them. Hope this helps. Be careful when backing up very far as you could brake the rear wheel, or that the plow will tip over. Use a trip rope with enough length that when the plow is tripped the rope sags 1/2 way down to the hitch. fasten the rope to the plow by a wire that will come undone if the plow disengages itself from the tractor. I use 5 strands of bailing wire, twisted together to look like cable, about 1ft long. One end I hook into the holes (2) of the tractor seat. the other end I make a hook out of, and tie a knot in the rope so that the hook has somthing to hold of the rope. Then, if the plow disengages, the knpot will pull on the wire which will straighten out and release the wire. Alwys watch your plowing, especiall in trashy fields as the plow will bog up and youwill have a heck of a time getting it ceaned. Make sure that the moldboard and shares are polished clean bewfore you start as this will go some in eliminating bog ups. Clean after using and paint with polyurathane.

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MPK

04-27-2003 19:04:44




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  
The lever on the side by the wheel that normally runs in the furrow is also used to set that side much deeper when starting out on a new strip. After that it is used to level the plow. The other lever is used to set the depth.



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Phil Munson

04-27-2003 20:06:50




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 Re: Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to MPK, 04-27-2003 19:04:44  
When did the backfurrow become a new strip?



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Ron/PA

04-27-2003 13:48:06




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  
Sam, the two long levers are for depth and pitch, now I can try to explain each of them to you, but I'd only confuse you. The depth lever will set how deep your plows go, and the pitch will adjust the width of your furrows. The best I can tell you is, with the plows in the up position, move each lever and see what happens, then start playing, plow 2 passes in each direction, and adjust, then just keep going, sooner or later you will plow a smooth flat furrow, then you will know what each lever does.
Later
Ron

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JMS/MN

04-29-2003 00:42:38




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 Re: Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to Ron/PA, 04-27-2003 13:48:06  
The width of the furrow? Width of the furrow is a fixed dimension- fixed by the frame of the plow- 12, 14, 16, etc. The left lever is used to set the depth of the plow, and the right lever is used to level the frame of the plow. On the initial furrow of each land, the right lever is raised to lower the right side of the plow so it plows level with the right wheel running on the surface of the field, then on the second round, and thereafter, until starting a new land, it is lowered to level the plow when the right wheel runs in the furrow. To minimize readjustments, set the right lever in the proper position and start all lands at once, then reset the lever and plow the rest of the field.

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jj

04-27-2004 12:51:27




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 Re: Re: Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to JMS/MN, 04-29-2003 00:42:38  
i dont get it



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Ron/PA

04-29-2003 06:04:38




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 Re: Re: Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to JMS/MN, 04-29-2003 00:42:38  
When I say width of the furrow, I didn't mean the fixed furrows on the 2 bottom plow, but the distance between passes, this will adjust the frame pitch to match each pass so that you don't see each and every pass as 2 furrows.
Ron



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Ron/PA

04-27-2003 13:47:41




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  
Sam, the two long levers are for depth and pitch, now I can try to explain each of them to you, but I'd only confuse you. The depth lever will set how deep your plows go, and the pitch will adjust the width of your furrows. The best I can tell you is, with the plows in the up position, move each lever and see what happens, then start playing, plow 2 passes in each direction, and adjust, then just keep going, sooner or later you will plow a smooth flat furrow, then you will know what each lever does.
Later
Ron

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SAm in NS

04-27-2003 13:25:21




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 Re: How to use a trailer plough? in reply to SAm in NS, 04-27-2003 13:24:03  
Ooops! Sorry about the multiple post. SAm in NS



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