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Scott Houtex

05-08-2003 15:21:52




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I am looking for information on the use of PTO driven
and hydraulic fence post drivers (pounders). What are the plus and minus arguments for each?
Any preference on brands?
My soil conditions are:
1)Texas coastal clay
2)Sand with some soft rock,(no boulders or granite)

I am interested in driving wood posts. I assume
any driver that can do wood can also do T posts.

Do they depend on the weight of the tractor to function? I have a small number of posts to install in the clay soil, but several miles of fence in the sandy
rocky soil. My internet research has found Shaver,King Hitter,
Jet and Danuser brands. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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jls

05-09-2003 20:03:18




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 Re: Fence Post Driver in reply to Scott Houtex, 05-08-2003 15:21:52  
drive a trailer load of posts (more or less) every year. 18 bunks. use a shaver 8 and it is the weight of the driver that does the work, the tractor just moves the driver around and provides the hydr power to lift the slide. The 8 is light but by july when the ground dries out I go to steel post jobs or concentrate on baling. Mine is on the back of a yanmar 2000 and it is great for slipping between trees and around tight spots. so light I've not got stuck yet but I"m real careful on hills. clay is malleable and posts drive good if slow when dry. sand is a bear because it just absorbs the force of the blow. sandy or rocky country I'd have to go to a shaver 10 and probably will when my 8 dies.got to go to a bigger tractor tho, Shavers are real common so parts are easy

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Paul Janke

05-09-2003 19:12:10




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 Re: Fence Post Driver in reply to Scott Houtex, 05-08-2003 15:21:52  
I used to drive posts for a living. I used a Shaver HD8. My record was 180 posts in an hour, but don't expect anything like that without spending money. Danuser drivers are or at least used to be a friction wheel lift system which did not work when it was wet. The biggest single thing you can do to make the Shaver hit hard is to use a large diameter and very short return line to the reservoir so the oil can get out of the cylinder quickly with little back pressure. The springs gave out very quickly, so I eliminated them and welded weight on the sides near the bottom. Some people add whatever weight they can find, and it seems like they always put it directly over the plate which hits the post. I didn't want the center of gravity any higher than it had to be. If memory doesn't fail me, I think I added about 200 pounds. My driver was on the back of a 1968 Ford Bronco which had been rolled over and totaled. It was cheaper than a tractor, and we could road it to the jobs. I eventually set it up so I could drive it with one handle from the back, right by the post driver. With that setup, my record was 105 posts per hour by myself.

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Paul Janke

05-09-2003 19:18:45




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 Re: Re: Fence Post Driver in reply to Paul Janke, 05-09-2003 19:12:10  
I just remembered that the driver we had was the HD10, not the HD8 like I said. The 8 uses a 3/4 inch rod in the cylinder. The 10 has a 1" rod.



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Terry in KY

05-09-2003 06:29:14




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 Re: Fence Post Driver in reply to Scott Houtex, 05-08-2003 15:21:52  
We have a 10 inch Shaver. We had an 8 inch for years, but it took forever to get big corner posts driven and all posts in rocky ground. The 10 inch is much better. A lot of guys around here are going to 12 inch now. Ours is three point hitch. Some guys like them on the front of the tractor because they don't jump around as much. However, we use 8 and 9 ft. corner posts, so all we have to do is raise the lift a little higher. If the driver is on the front, you have to pull the tractor up on blocks for long posts.

If you are just going to drive a few small posts, an 8 inch Shaver would do and used ones usually go for less than $500. Used 10 inch Shavers usually run around $1200. If you are looking at new ones, I'd go ahead and get a 10 inch. About the only thing that goes bad on these drivers are the springs, but a new set of springs will drive several hundred posts if you store the driver inside.

As far as brands, Shaver and Worksaver are very similar and work good. I'm not familiar with Kinghitter or Jet. I've heard the Danuser pto doesn't hit very hard.

Finally, if you've never used a post driver, be careful. Keep your hands in the right places and watch for flying splinters (sometimes posts bust apart).

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Terry in KY

05-09-2003 06:19:15




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 Re: Fence Post Driver in reply to Scott Houtex, 05-08-2003 15:21:52  
We have a 10 inch Shaver. We had an 8 inch for years, but it took forever to get big corner posts driven and all posts in rocky ground. The 10 inch is much better. A lot of guys around here are going to 12 inch now. Ours is three point hitch. Some guys like them on the front of the tractor because they don't jump around as much. However, we use 8 and 9 ft. corner posts, so all we have to do is raise the lift a little higher. If the driver is on the front, you have to pull the tractor up on blocks for long posts.

If you are just going to drive a few small posts, an 8 inch Shaver would do and used ones usually go for less than $500. Used 10 inch Shavers usually run around $1200. If you are looking at new ones, I'd go ahead and get a 10 inch. About the only thing that goes bad on these drivers are the springs, but a new set of springs will drive several hundred posts if you store the driver inside.

As far as brands, Shaver and Worksaver are very similar and work good. I'm not familiar with Kinghitter or Jet. I've heard the Danuser pto doesn't hit very hard.

Finally, if you've never used a post driver, be careful. Keep your hands in the right places and watch for flying splinters (sometimes posts bust apart).

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Clem

05-08-2003 16:13:56




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 Re: Fence Post Driver in reply to Scott Houtex, 05-08-2003 15:21:52  
I had a Jet and now have a Shaver. I can drive pipe of all sizes up to 8" diameter into any kind of ground including limestone. I don't have any wood posts on the place so I can't advise. Shaver is a much better machine than the Jet. Jet is ok for the one or two post job. Years ago I had a PTO driven Danuser that did a good job. I paid $1850. for my Shaver. Shaver is the most popular brand around here. I live in northeast Oklahoma.

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