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Mike

05-15-2003 05:07:30

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First time messing with a N-H 68 baler. Tried some straw and kept breaking twine. Think the twine is just weak from age. My manual talks about adjustments but first you have to "trip the knoters". But it doesn't tell how to trip them. Any advice on getting this thing to bale right will be a help. Seems to be in decent mechanical shape. None of the grease fittings took more than 2 pumps. Seems like whoever had it maintained it. Thanks

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larry

05-16-2003 20:52:01

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Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Mike, 05-15-2003 05:07:30

don't try and run baler and check needles cousin tried it once 5 hours surgery and lucky to have a hand thought he would pull out that little bit of twine when the baler was running also seen chunks gone from shoes when guys rode on baler to watch the needles run

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chaney creek

05-15-2003 17:25:37

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Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Mike, 05-15-2003 05:07:30

First I would get a manual and read it from front to back. Then, disconnect it from the tractor. After I got new twine threaded in it ( its got to be threaded right), trip the knotter mechanism and turn the flywheel by hand to make it go thru the complete tying cycle. Just forget about hooking it to the tractor for a while until you are sure it is operating properly. They are not kidding- needles are expensive and cost you down time and can tear up a knotter arm or whatever. I learned the hard way. Make sure the haydogs are working. They keep the plunger from coming down the chamber and busting the needles. The best thing is to have someone out there with you that knows whats going on. It would probably be worth your while to get the mechanic out there for an hour or two to give you an idea of how it operates.

I was a newbee too once and wish I had listened to my friend.

Be careful! Good luck

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TomH

05-15-2003 16:47:33

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Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Mike, 05-15-2003 05:07:30

Make sure the twine knives are razor sharp and in the correct position. The end of the twine should be cut straight across without looking ragged at all.

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JOE in MO

05-15-2003 09:44:20

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Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Mike, 05-15-2003 05:07:30

I never save twine from last season.. I run a older 14t, and broke lots of twine,, and also missed a lot of ties using the plastic twine,, I went back to the old orginal stuff, and it runs great,, and only breaks when I try to bale it too wet,, I had a couple of 95 pound bales (wife was running baler as I was working late at the office and I was picking them up) last year.. had to scatter them again to dry some more.

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Kelly C

05-15-2003 05:30:56

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Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Mike, 05-15-2003 05:07:30

Tripping the knotters. Along the bale chamber there is that star wheel that turns as a bale is pushed past it. This makes the arm connected to it move up. AT the bottom end of this arm is a cam. When the cam drops into the pulley this causes the knotters to trip.
You can do this by hand. Just pull up on the bar untill the cam drops into the pulley and you have tripped the baler.
You can then turn the fly wheel by hand and run the knotters through a tying cycle. ( baler not hooked to tractor pto)

Things to check for breaking twine.
Check the timing.
Look at the needles to see if it is worn. Mine had deep groves cut deeper that the original holes. Twine was binding in this grooves.

Twine guides clean and adjusted, not binding.

I also noticed that on some twine I had seemed to pull real hard from the center of a new ball.
I have some info on my web site for timing a NH68
Just click on this link. Find the NH68 link on the left side of my web page.
Hope this helps. SOme of the more wise than me may be able to add more.

My Farmall and NH 68 web site

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Mike

05-15-2003 09:42:16

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Re: Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Kelly C, 05-15-2003 05:30:56

Thanks for the help guys. Since I've already run the baler and no damage has occured other than breaking twine should I assume that it's well enough in time to work? I have a few acres of rye straw mowed to bale. Or, should I time it first. I have the New Holland manual. Thanks again.

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Mike

05-15-2003 09:31:38

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Mike

05-15-2003 09:28:18

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Re: Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Kelly C, 05-15-2003 05:30:56

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paul

05-15-2003 06:10:16

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Re: Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to Kelly C, 05-15-2003 05:30:56

Before making things worse, spend $20 on new twine & see if that helps.

Then follow Kelly, he's been working on his for a year now, & doing a good job. :)

You want a manual, NH has them, there is a lot of adjustment info in there - and if you mess up on timing, new twine needles cost $70 or better - each.

--->Paul

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Kelly C

05-15-2003 06:20:09

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Re: Re: Re: Baler newbie has questions in reply to paul, 05-15-2003 06:10:16

That would be $58.03 each for the needles.
I just bought 2 :-)

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