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Kelly C

06-08-2003 21:43:48

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Any one know what model IH dick this is? Where they any good?

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Leroy from Ohio

06-10-2003 04:08:04

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Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-08-2003 21:43:48

Had 37 IH disc 8 1/2" with self leveling hitch, is now being pulled by a 6 horse hitch, was to much for late model B John Deere; same HP as Farmal H; used late model A john Deere, more HP that that 300 IH; would not have wanted 10' with the A, going slow enough, horse speed with enough weight on 300 and duals you might pull it. That is low gear on fresh plowed ground

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Kelly C

06-10-2003 04:45:47

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Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Leroy from Ohio, 06-10-2003 04:08:04

Hmmm. Thats not good to hear.
I wonder if I set the rear disk strait so they dont dig in. Or remove the rear set if I could pull it?
If not I guess I will paint this one up and sell it and continue my search for a small disk.

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Hugh MacKay

06-10-2003 06:20:01

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Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-10-2003 04:45:47

Kelly: I would try the disk, but rather than cutting it down as you suggested take 1 or 2 blades off each gang. It will probably require some fabrication. If and when you shorten the gang bolts cut the head end and weld a new head on bolt. I recently helped a guy cut a 44 blade disk down to a 24 for his super C. Last word I had, he is tickled pink with it. The beauty of those larger disks is the gang bolts, bearings, spacers and indeed frame is much heavier per foot and they cut much better. They also stand up to use better.

I had a 28 blade heavy Cockshutt disk, 8' when my 300 was new. That disk could take my 300 to second gear, low on the TA quite easily. That's the kind of disk you want if your going to be disking sod plowing. You need a disk that will cut the sod up. Just about any disk will work on stubble, it taks a good one for sod. Just take a bit of time and look at some 8' disks, compare how much lighter they are than what you have. This is what I was talking about last evening. That IH dealer could have ordered heavy equipment on an 8' disk. Cockshutt were doing it here in Canada back in the 50 and 60s and they took the market in our area anyway. You may as well have a disk with heavy equipment as load a light one with rocks and bust it up.

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Kelly C

06-10-2003 17:31:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-10-2003 06:20:01

Thanks Hugh.
I remember the thread about cutting down that disk for a super C.
I was wondering if I could just replace 2 disks on each gang with a spacer or some thing like that. That way I could shorten it and not cut up the shaft.
I could then put em back on when and if I ever get a good deal on a 400 :-)
Hey look I found another reason to buy another tractor.
( wife screams bloody murder in the back ground)

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Hugh MacKay

06-10-2003 18:56:19

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-10-2003 17:31:31

Kelly: Good thinking, I was also thinking about that today, thinking I should suggested that. I personally would try the disk as is first. You may be able to get by with reducing the angle. I don't know how expensive stroke control hydraulic cylinders are anymore. What you need is something to control depth on hydraulics. A chain from the axle pivot to back frame of disk works well. I always used two chains and a slip link. Set one chain 1/2 link shorter than the other, gives you more settings. The other matter to remember, contrary to what a lot of people think, disks will do just as good job at 2 mph as they will at 4-5. Cultivators are different they need speed to work well.

I used to have 88 plate trailing wing disk. 1066 would lug it along at 4-5 mph and I don't think that was the limit. However I always put the 1066 on 25' cultivator and put that disk behind 100 hp Deere, employees couldn't get over 3-3.5 mph with it, but you know they never broke anything either.

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Kelly C

06-10-2003 19:46:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-10-2003 18:56:19

All I care is if can pull it. I dont need to go fast at all. I just dont want to get stuck.

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Hugh MacKay

06-10-2003 20:08:49

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-10-2003 19:46:14

Kelly: I wouldn't worry about getting stuck, your hydraulic lever can always save you there. I do know it will not be long before you have some more hp. If you do remove some disk blades short term, make up some spacers same thickness as disk blades as you probably wont have enough threads on gang bolts without. You will also have to be careful of those gang bolt ends. Good luck and let me know how you make out.

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Kelly C

06-10-2003 20:45:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-10-2003 20:08:49

Yea my poor old 300 has been sitting waiting for me to do some thing on her.
I am sure she gets the tingles when ever I pick up a wrench and turn to her only to be dismayed as I walk on by and wrench on one of my other projects.
She wont have to wait too long. My 300 is never to far out of my mind.

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dhermesc

06-10-2003 06:13:11

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Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-10-2003 04:45:47

It will probably be a real gut check for your H to pull it, and then only in first gear. You 300 won't have too much of a problem as long as its weighted well. Ten foot is a lot a area to cover with a H or 300 but the #37 is a pretty light disk and doesn't work that deep.

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As a side note- Kelly C

06-09-2003 20:35:07

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Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-08-2003 21:43:48

I learned some thing wile pulling this home with my pick up. When I got up to about 8 miles per hr. The disk just started swaying back and forth out of control.
A old farmer saw me and flagged me over. He asked if I had a come-A-Long. I said sure do. He showed me how to take the sway out when towing.
He hooked my come-A-Long at a narrow angle from the disk to the hitch on my truck.
This worked sweet!!! I could tow her at 40 mph with out any sway at all.
He said it works on hay racks too. I havent tried that yet but I will.

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TP from Central PA

06-09-2003 19:07:54

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Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-08-2003 21:43:48

I would say it is a 37..... ...Looks like a 10 Ft'er..... ..Are you getting it for the powerhouse 300( After you punch it out and everything)????? ;-P

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Kelly C

06-09-2003 20:24:57

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Re: Re: help with disk in reply to TP from Central PA, 06-09-2003 19:07:54

Yep.
I have been looking for a small disk since last fall. I wanted a 8' disk but this 10' was the smallest I could find close. I wonder if my H could pull it?
I am sure when I get the new sleeves and rings in my 300. The 300 would just toy with it.

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TP from Central PA

06-10-2003 04:51:55

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Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-09-2003 20:24:57

I don't know what soil you have, but I don't think an "H" would pull it here..... ...But, you couldn't hurt anything by trying! That 300 will walk right along with it!!!!! !!!! Just need about 3 wheel weights and you'll be set!

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Leroy

06-09-2003 17:08:33

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Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-08-2003 21:43:48

Yes it looks like a 37. I have never seen one with a self leveling hitch, they all had a leveling screw on the hitch.

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Hugh MacKay

06-09-2003 15:54:14

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Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-08-2003 21:43:48

Kelly: The light is not best on that picture, but I would have to say 37. It could also be the newer 350 or 370. There is really not a whole lot of difference in the three of them.

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Kelly C

06-09-2003 16:41:41

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Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-09-2003 15:54:14

It has greasable bearings if that helps.

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Hugh MacKay

06-09-2003 17:52:33

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Re: Re: Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-09-2003 16:41:41

Kelly: I am not right up on IH disks, other that to spot them by the distinct frame. I never owned an IH disk, our dealer speced them too cheap and much too light. He gave IH disks a bad name in our area.

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Oops sorry for the tye O-

06-08-2003 21:52:19

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Re: help with disk in reply to Kelly C, 06-08-2003 21:43:48

IH disk was what I meant to type. How did that get by the watch dog any way?

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