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sprayman

06-12-2003 16:35:20




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High all. I'm thinking of buying this grader. I have no idea what it is worth but it looks really neat. I painted this piece 11 years ago and recently found it derelict again. Any info would be appreciated. I hope this link works.




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Taylor Lambert

06-14-2003 20:13:00




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 Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 16:35:20  
It looks like an Adams or a russel grader, Im leaning towards Adams though. Let me check around.



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sprayman

06-15-2003 18:51:50




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 Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to Taylor Lambert, 06-14-2003 20:13:00  
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Will this help? Any ideas as to worth? A few bent spokes and the front axle assembly seperated at the pin. Otherwise, pretty good shape.



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Jim in Michigan

06-14-2003 05:43:46




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 Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 16:35:20  
I have the same grader sitting here in my yard,,belongs to a neighbor ,,I was fixing it for her...This one is a Road Patrol grader...probablky same as yours ,,,looks exactly the same excepin the one here isnt painted,they sell high here,I have seen them upwards of 1000$,,Jim



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Hugh MacKay

06-14-2003 07:08:12




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 Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to Jim in Michigan , 06-14-2003 05:43:46  
Jim: Those graders and other makes like them sell quite well to people with a good sized tractor and wood lot roads, camp grounds, etc. I saw a guy who owned a campground and a Cockshutt 40 run one, actually I think a bit larger than that one, 9' mold board to $2,000. on auction. He did get it. I used one of these once with 9' or 10' mold board, and believe me it could make the Farmall 560 work. In fact the guy on the blade could stop you just with a few spins of the depth wheel.

I remember these 9 and 10 footers being used behind Cat 20 and 22 crawlers by road departments, when I was a kid. They could cut a roadside ditch as well may be better than the new modern graders as your traction could stay right on the hard surface. You didn't want to be doing short sections of road as it took a half acre to turn them. The larger ones I remember also had a steering wheel for the grader operator, so the tractor didn't have to swing wide on turns.

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Jim in Michigan

06-15-2003 12:21:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-14-2003 07:08:12  
we use eithet the H or the M on it,,but yeah you can stop it with just a few cranks of the wheels...I used the blade to jack it up so I can change tires,,when you have the blade down to scrape then the tires are off the ground,,,Jim



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Ludwig

06-13-2003 13:07:07




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 Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 16:35:20  
WOW! Wish I could get me one of those...



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jokers

06-13-2003 05:00:12




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 Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 16:35:20  
Hi Sprayman, it only seems fair that the man who owns this piece should share in determining it`s value. By this I mean that he should have to give you an idea of what he will take and then you guys work toward some middle ground. If he flat out won`t set an initial price then you shouldn`t worry about lowballing him because in a roundabout way he is highballing you. Your demeanor in this thread seems sincere and he should pick up on that and realize that you are not trying to cheat him. Don`t forget to metion that it is quite likely to need some custom machining or welding to put it back together and of course needs to be reprepped and painted to restore it to it`s former glory. Just two cents from a guy who has had too much luck buying old projects from people, LOL.

Russ

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John A.

06-12-2003 18:19:57




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 Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 16:35:20  
Sprayman, Go see that feller, Run your hands in both your pockets ,kick at a pebble on the ground, spit!, Then offer him $100 dollars for it . Then tell him your doing him a favor by hauling that ol hunk of iron off for him. Then Hand him cash, Load that new prize up on your trailer. Then leave as quickily as possible! About 1 mile from his house start singing and shouting, you might even stop and do a little dance in the middle of the road!
Good Luck,
John A.

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Ole

06-13-2003 07:15:47




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 Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to John A., 06-12-2003 18:19:57  
Ya trying to get someting for notting,NO?



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sprayman

06-12-2003 20:27:24




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 Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to John A., 06-12-2003 18:19:57  
Hi John A.
If only I thought he would go for it. This guy is the father of the guy I painted the piece for the first time. He is a very sharp man and at times in his life has had 800+ people in his employ. The first time I saw the grader it looked like it had sat in a field for decades. It probably did. If you look closely at the pin that the front axle pivots on is in very bad shape. I don’t know why the son didn’t fix it before he had me paint it. I was afraid it would fall apart while I was working on it. The grader took second place in static display at the ‘91 state fair. I honestly believe that it would have taken Best of Show if it were put behind the right team with era correct tack and entered pushing dirt. The machine currently sits in two pieces (apart at the pin mentioned earlier) in a dry ditch on their family property. I know that anything is only worth what the market will bare but I don’t know where to start. I don’t want to appear to be ignorant by offering too much but at the same time I don’t want to insult a very good man with an offer that is to low.
Still, a very beautiful piece of history I feel blessed to have been able to have worked on. PS That is MF red and old Cat yellow. Turned out great, I think.

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John A.

06-13-2003 19:03:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 20:27:24  
Sprayman, It is evident that this ol grader was sure-enough a darlin back in 91. Then it would have commanded a truck load of money. BUT---
This is 03, it is once again sitting derilict, in a dry ditch at this fellers place. This tells me a lot about what this guy thinks about it TODAY! Not to mention the money he spent 12yrs ago on it and what he thinks about your work!! Don't get up set. Use it to get the bargan of a life time.
I still maintain that $100 dollars is a fair starting offer, Then go up, if need be.
I have no problem offering a scrap or below price for my first offer. I have been known to haggle over .25 cents on a .75 cent craftsman screwdriver at a pawnshop. I win 90% of the time.
He can counter offer,so can you,then him again, till you agree on what is fair
Good Luck,
John A.

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Tom A

06-13-2003 04:12:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to sprayman, 06-12-2003 20:27:24  
Seems to me $100 isn't a bad starting offer if you're really in the dark...not an insult at any rate. If it is again a derelict, he may just want to get the care and feeding of it off his hands, if it is going to a good home. So you might start by just asking if he's interested in "getting it off his hands." Sometimes old guys around here just want a piece out of their area where they've been bumping into it or mowing around it for years but didn't think anybody would be interested. I've got friends who have gotten a lot of stuff just for the asking that way (I'm not lucky enough for that, but I have gotten some fixable equipment cheap.).

good luck,
tom

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Sprayman

06-14-2003 15:08:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you identify this? in reply to Tom A, 06-13-2003 04:12:40  
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Men, I really appreciate the advice you’ve provided. It’s a good thing when a total stranger can ask a question and be treated with respect even though it is apparent I am very uninformed about the subject at hand. For that I thank you. I have added this forum to my favorites list and if I succeed in buying the grader, I promise to let you know and post pics of the grader as it sits now. For a reward for your hospitality, here is a pic of the girl in a quartering away shot. Most guys like to know what ladies look like as they walk away, so enjoy.

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