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A 2 or 3 phase question

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lpc

06-16-2003 22:05:16




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Dealing with selling hay in small squares. Before I started rolling my own I've bought hay in 30-50 lb bales touted as 40 to the ton, all of it. Swore I'd do it more accurate if I had the chance. Well, when I bale in the afternoon I get bales at 55lbs. pretty consistent. Rounding up to 37/ton. If I bale towards evening they add weight in a big hurry. I feel it's because the moisture from the ground and air makes the bales not slide so easy in the chamber and therefore add moisture weight along with packing more hay into each bale. Am I the only one that feels right about dropping bale count/ton to make the figures come out right? I got a friend to blow up on me because another mutual friend told her they were 37/ton/ad price. Didn't matter if she was getting a ton, wanted 37 bales per ton per price. I'm not changing the baler to suit her whims. Am I out of line? Loren.

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evielboweviel

06-17-2003 09:58:43




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 Re: A 2 or 3 phase question in reply to lpc, 06-16-2003 22:05:16  
sell it by the bale unless selling a truckload 200+ bales. then sell by the ton only if the scales are close enough to check weight empty and loaded
what you have now is unworkable without scales on the farm and weighing all hay. Way too much confusion by changing amoout of bales per ton all the time.



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Tom A

06-17-2003 05:57:39




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 Re: A 2 or 3 phase question in reply to lpc, 06-16-2003 22:05:16  
Around here it is normally "either-or." You buy by the bale at $x per bale, or you buy by the ton and it is weighed on a scale.

That said, it is not that unusual for a buyer who wants a large quantity of bales to weigh a few bales at random to establish an "average" weight per bale, and then negotiate a price per ton that's usually lower than the per-bale price.

Tom



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OldJohn

06-17-2003 04:43:18




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 Re: A 2 or 3 phase question in reply to lpc, 06-16-2003 22:05:16  
I've sold a lot of hay over the years. Sell by the ton, weigh the truck or wagon full and after when empty. It can be a trip to a scale but then there is no confusion about what was bought. Too many variables on the per bale rate unless both the seller and buyer don't care. Really, 37 or 40 per ton is a big difference, could be as much as 10% with heavy bales. If I'm buying gas, 10% less would mean 4 1/2 gals in a 5 gallon can and I'm really cheesed off.

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A hay question!

06-17-2003 01:13:48




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 Re: A 2 or 3 phase question in reply to lpc, 06-16-2003 22:05:16  
I thought this was going to be about an electrical hookup! :)

Selling & buying hay, firewood, and so on is always a difficult task. People don't like to get less than they think they should, and a seller can't afford to give away extra for free.

Either sell by the ton, OR sell by the bale. I think you are asking for trouble by mentioning both. Just one, or the other.

So, my answer is single phase!

--->Paul

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Ridr

06-17-2003 05:15:57




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 Re: Re: A 2 or 3 phase question in reply to A hay question!, 06-17-2003 01:13:48  
If you don't have scales I think your better off selling by the bale , forget the ton. Every bale can vary in weight so there is no true formula for figuring a full load without a scale. If they want 40 then they pay the bale price times forty , no hassles



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