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Errin OH

06-17-2003 20:42:09




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unfortnetly thats not a good thing. Twice now the weather guesser have gotten it wrong. First time silage guys got theirs up but the bale guys missed it by a day, then it rained for a week. Total loss. This time up till Monday night they said not till Wednesday night. This moring (Tuesday) it was raining. Might salvage it but not looking good. Sun with some chance of showers Wed. Thursday all rain, dry Friday and Sat. I'll wait till Fri & Sat before I make any plans. Word is hay has now doubled in price and is likely to stay there.

Got the baler already to go, but had a couple problems. Ford 250, PTO shaft kept shearing keys. Tore into the flywheel clutch pack, quite rusty, clened up and re assembled. But couldn't for the life of me get the slip clutch on the PTO to come loose. Tried the heat, oil, more heat, more oil, BIG hammer. Nothing. I look through the parts manual and it seem the you just wrench the big nut down on it. Someone musta really been wrenchen. Anyway, got tired of messing with that, soaked it down good, and went a split a tire on the AC. Dry rote got to the center rib and the tube came bustin through. So I spent the rest of the day replacing front tires on the AC.

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Rick in MI

06-19-2003 09:12:04




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 Re: First cutting is done - in reply to Errin OH, 06-17-2003 20:42:09  
Tried cutting a small section of the hay field 3 weeks ago because we were out of hay and the weather man said no rain from Sunday through Thrusday. I cut on Sunday and it rained Monday and Tuesday. That hay was ruined. I tried cutting agian last Sunday morning and they said no rain till Wednesday evening. Then they changed the forescast to rain on Monday Night. I got lucky and baled Monday night and it was good dry hay. it was hot and windy for those to days and the hay was perfect to bale. I still have the rest of the field to do. I am going to try and cut today if it dries up enough. It is suppose to be good dry weather here through Sunday !! Yeah right!!

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Don-WI

06-18-2003 20:10:27




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 Re: First cutting is done - in reply to Errin OH, 06-17-2003 20:42:09  
I know that feeling. Cut all of my hay over the weekend, with the weather man saying no rain all week, MAYBE a SMALL, SCATTERED shower over SMALL PARTS of the veiwing area Wed. NIGHT. Well, All tuesday night, some of wed. morn, and then on & off all day. Basically over a good chunk of NE WI, if not more than. Tried baling yesterday evening, but it was still just a little too tough. Would've been some of the tenderest 1st crop hay we've baled in a few years. O well I guess, weather is supposed to clear up now, now that all of our hay is wet.
Donovan from WI

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Fighting suburbia in NC

06-18-2003 05:23:40




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 Re: First cutting is done - in reply to Errin OH, 06-17-2003 20:42:09  
On the slip clutch, just loosen the nut up a bunch and then run the PTO in a situation that will allow it to slip. All you need to do is to get the rust broke loose between the surfaces. They will polish themselves up by slipping past each other.

I have always heard to never apply any lubricant to a slip clutch as it defeats the intended slip action purpose. If you are going to clean off the plates once you get it apart I reckon that is OK but I would be afraid that penetrant oil would soak the plate material and then it would become "grabby" instead of a more fluid start and stop to the slip. Think of fluid soaked brake drum linings and how they grab.

Good luck with getting it broke loose.

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Errin OH

06-18-2003 08:20:53




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 Re: Re: First cutting is done - in reply to Fighting suburbia in NC, 06-18-2003 05:23:40  
Yea I tried to avoid the plates themselves and soak just the nut down. Using the PB stuff, I have always had good luck with it. I'll give it a day or two. I think the problem is where the nut fits against the plate. The threads look good, but I think the nut is rusted up tight to the plate. Given the condition of the flywheel clutch I'd bet this one isn't gona slip at all.



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Jerry D in NC

06-18-2003 10:30:06




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 Re: Re: Re: First cutting is done - in reply to Errin OH, 06-18-2003 08:20:53  
I have found a little trick that helps alot with that type of rusted nut removal. I have one of those little cheap sand blasters that cost about $25 that works on suction. You can take that thing and sand blast all around the nut including up against the plate and knock most of the rust out. Then if it doesn't turn with a little heat, I'll add a little penetrating oil and let it sit. I have used PB Blaster but I have had wonderful luck with Kroil. Seems to soak in better. Blasting with the sand tends to open up the nut and bolt to accept the oil better.

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howster the one

06-18-2003 04:03:13




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 Re: First cutting is done - in reply to Errin OH, 06-17-2003 20:42:09  
haven't even started on my grass hay yet. Have a bunch of afalfa down, some has been down over a week. Did get on job finished up mon eve. it was too dry and the leaves were flying but just closed my eyes and went. just little showers overnight and yesterday stayed cloudy all day. i raked some and did repair work. now another little shower. Our club is running the Dain hay press at the Museum today. That might be a fun change of pace.

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