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Michael Soldan

06-27-2003 14:57:49




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My Massey Haybine works great but this lush field of pasture mix which is probably half clover came out like a foot and a half thick salad. I cut a week ago Saturday and we had Sun Mon Tues,hot and dry and it just barely went on Tuesday night, we turned it twice and had a heck of a time getting it dry enough..is this typical of haybines to lay it out thick or is this the nature of the crop itself? I have six acres of timothy hay to do for a neighbour and I suspect it will dry much quicker...is this a correct assumption??..there is a good part to this story..our little M-F#10 did just over 500 bales so far and only missed three, of course I put new sisal twine in and threw away what was left from last year..that seems to be a big help....Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Leroy

06-29-2003 07:14:47




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
I am not familar with the Massey, What size is it, are the roles the same width as the knife? A Haybine for making dry hay will have roles that are the same width as the knife and will with sheilds be able to be adjusted to lay the swath 1' less in width than the knife. The other type of haybine is a windrower type in that it has roles that are app. 3-4' wide on about a 9' or longer knife, this type is best used juse for silage and will lay the grass in a thick row where the other type a thin row, grass will dry faster than clover, use a tedder the next morning after mowing and then rake a day later, raking to soon will only compound the problem, if you need to, use that tedder a second or third time

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tim[in]

06-28-2003 17:10:01




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
you might adjust rollers to squeeze a little tighter. some also go behind with an old fashioned hay conditioner and crush it again. also cut a little higher so as to leave stubble for the hay to rest on and the wind to pass underneath. i try to leave the windrow wide enough so there is just enough bare space for the cutter shoe not to run on cut hay from previous swath. so the windrow is as wide as possible. also cut as close to noon but not after if at all possible when cutting. this is like adding another drying day to the hay.

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Roy in UK

06-28-2003 08:29:23




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
Been there, done that. Clover does take some drying! those stems sure do hold moisture and it needs patience, bale it too soon and its a disaster. It needs tedding frequently but as in all hay crops it all depends on that big yellow thing in the sky..... is there any wonder that big bale silage is so popular over here!



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larry

06-28-2003 07:06:38




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
the are right on about clover being hard to dry its good feed but.Also be carefull about grazing clover we have used it for years but bloat is a problem watch what time of day you put them out and make sure they are full before also there is bloat guard blocks you can feed cheap its just cheap insurance.side fact did you know warfin was devolped from clover silage ?



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Dale in IN

06-28-2003 05:22:36




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
Most hay bines that I have been around can be adjusted for width of windrow. In heavy materials and generally on first cuttings or wet ground You should adjust them so as to lay the cut material as wide as possible. It does not hurt the hay to drive on it while it is still fresh cut. Most people that I see cut with these machines want to see how tight they can windrow fresh cut materials. I have learned over 30+ years of experience that they are wrong. And it is going to require extra drying time.
My cutter is 9'3" and in heavey materials I lay a 6 1/2' swath . Try this I think it might help.

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JMS/MN

06-27-2003 22:26:09




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
Clover is probably the worst hay crop to expect to dry before it rains. Grasses, like timothy, dry much faster than alfalfa. More stem, fewer leaves= faster drydown.



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Sid

06-27-2003 20:40:41




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
Yes it is hard to dry clover but we have found a hay tedder works great with thick Red clover and grass hay.



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JEFF F

06-27-2003 19:55:59




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
You are on the mark about the timothy. I have both clover and timothy and the timothy dries in about half the time it takes the clover. They claim clover is harder to dry than alfalfa and every bit of my experience with it holds true to that. Someone on this forum may have a trick or 2 up their sleeve on clover but the best I can offer is to watch it close until it is pretty dry on top and then run your rake over with enough bite to just flip it over bottom to top. I know people with alot more experience than me that claim to have poor luck with clover so good luck and let me know if you get it figured out.

Jeff

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agman

06-27-2003 19:22:43




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
You need to let the cows eat it out of the field. They are the cheapest harvesters on the market. Iron = $$$$ and Grazing = Profit



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paul

06-27-2003 17:39:58




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 Re: Eight acres of Salad in reply to Michael Soldan, 06-27-2003 14:57:49  
In my location, that is kinda typical of clover, esp the thin stemmed types.

--->Paul



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