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Tom 8N396936

07-07-2003 08:10:32




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I hope someone here can help me. I have a Kilbros model 672 hay wagon that i need some advice on. If you are familiar with that wagon there is a "tube" welded the cross member between the front wheels (on the I beam). That tube has a bolt that drops through it to secure the hitch that attachs to the tractor. On the bottom goes a castle nut. The top of the bolt is a flat square head. Well everthing broke up and I cut the bottom of that bolt off with the nut- the top part had sheared. Now I have a bolt with no head and nothing sticking out the bottom that I can not get out. Are there more threads I am missing? I have tried pounding it out after a good dose or PB Blaster and heating it with a small torch (propane) If anyone kows how this goes together I would be thankful for any help. I need to get this wagon working- hay is already late!
thanks in advance
tom

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Leroy

07-07-2003 20:30:44




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 Re: Haywagon in reply to Tom 8N396936, 07-07-2003 08:10:32  
If I understand you correctly it is on the hitch piviot that you are having the problem and not on the coupling pole that the other posters are thinking. I believe that on the hitch that bolt would be threaded in with the nut just for a lock nut. You say you have a Killbros Wagon, That would have been made at Delphos, Ohio. Give them a call at 419-695-2060, Their mailing address is Kill Brothers Co, 24325 St Rt 696 Delphos, Oh. 45833

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JMS/MN

07-07-2003 22:57:05




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 Re: Re: Haywagon in reply to Leroy, 07-07-2003 20:30:44  
I agree- the problem is on the wagon hitch, not the reach. Oftentimes that pivot pin is threaded in to the lower part, and the nut is acting as a lock nut. You need to unscrew the pivot pin- if the head is torched off, can you weld another nut on top and turn it out?



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markct

07-07-2003 12:50:52




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 Re: Haywagon in reply to Tom 8N396936, 07-07-2003 08:10:32  
well this is sorta a hack idea, but how about just drilling a new hole an inch or 2 away from the old one, just shortening the wagon gear wheelbase by a few inches, and then just grind the old bolt off flush and forget about it. it isnt the best way but it would work fine i think, other than that all i can say is lotsa heat, and maybe lay a nut over the end of it and fill it with weld so ya have something to grab the bolt by and try to twist it around in the hole to loosen it, good luck, i know how frustrating these things are

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larry

07-07-2003 12:26:36




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 Re: Haywagon in reply to Tom 8N396936, 07-07-2003 08:10:32  
it isn't easy but have you tried drilling ? start with the smallest drill you have if nothing will work try renting a impact hammer good luck



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paul

07-07-2003 11:34:52




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 Re: Haywagon in reply to Tom 8N396936, 07-07-2003 08:10:32  
I am not familiar with your wagon, but I am familiar with the problem on other implements. Not fun! Can take a lot of effort, heat, & swearing. Dad had to cut a hole through the pipe to get in with the torch to get the inner pipe hot enough to get the pin out.

So, hind sight is 20/20, too bad you cut the bottom off, now you have nothing to grab hold of.

Often those bolts wear grooves in, or rust onto the inner pipe (bearing really) because we never watch them for wear, & forget to grease them. Just very hard to get things lined up again or the rust broken loose.

I'm not much help, but keep banging away at it.

--->Paul

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Tom 8N396936

07-07-2003 12:26:38




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 Re: Re: Haywagon in reply to paul, 07-07-2003 11:34:52  
Thanks Paul, I guess I am sitting here and have myself convinced there are no more thread. So you may be right more heat,hammer,and sweat.
thanks for the pep talk- I'll keep trying
tom



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