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Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt.

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Kelly C

07-09-2003 10:22:18

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Cut about 10 acres on Friday with my #5 and that stuff is still not dry enough to bale.
Now it got some rain on it today. :-( How long should this stuff take to dry?
I did rake up a windrow on the out side and bale that up. Still kinda damp in some of the stems.
Got 64 bales from one windrow around. Then the rain came and run us off. Hate to think how long its going to take to dry now.

Man my H and NH 68 were really pushing those heavy bales out. I did break 2 fly wheel shear bolts. Tying is great nice square bales. 80+ lbs bales.
If I ever get any baled and if its still good. I bet I get 1000+ bales off this.

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John

07-09-2003 19:25:59

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Re: Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt. in reply to Kelly C, 07-09-2003 10:22:18

Just a few ideas from what I see in my area. Guys here don't understand raking hay here. They think that it is just to put it into windrows to bale. It is more, raking helps to dry hay. I was taught to start on the outside of the field, make one complete pass, then rake that windrow in one more pass again. You end up with one big windrow, but it is more away from the edge (one rake width). (I have seen guys put a windrow on a stone wall fence). Next turn the tractor around, push that windrow back out about one rake width then continue to rake the rest of the field that same direction, making regular size windrows. You are now putting raked hay on a place where there is no hay because you cleared it on the previous pass. When it comes time to bale start a few windrows in or even at the center out. It is always hard to dry the outside rows because of trees blocking the sun. Last push the outside rows into the center of the field so it will get some sun. If necessary break up that first double windrow into 2 smaller ones. Just a few thoughts.

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Fyrman 904

07-09-2003 14:04:24

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Re: Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt. in reply to Kelly C, 07-09-2003 10:22:18

I cut about 5 acres last week, let it dry as it lay for a day and a half and then turned it.Let it sit for another day, then windrowed it into bigger rows. Of course that's when the baler broke down. Now I've turned it after each of the last 2 rains. It's starting to bleach out a bit, but it's not moldy. It was just starting to rain when I left for work at 5 this morning, I won't get back home until about 11 tomorrow morning, with any luck I can turn it then and bale in the evening. Good luck with your hay and weather.

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paul

07-09-2003 14:02:26

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Re: Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt. in reply to Kelly C, 07-09-2003 10:22:18

If you cut the oats for hay before the head truely appears, a haybine/ moco/ crimper (take your choice) really really helps on getting those stems to dry. If you let the heads come out, you will lose most of the kernals by crimping it, but the stems should be starting to dry down a bit by then anyhow....

I cut a few weed patches & headlands this year with the sickle, it was kinda wet yet but I round baled & fed directly. It is a challenge to dry it, and if it gets rain & sun then it will bleach out & look like straw. Last year I made some small squares with the moco, wow those dried down nice & was some good green feed - I got it cut before the heads came out that year.

--->Paul

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Fyrman 904

07-09-2003 14:02:00

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Re: Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt. in reply to Kelly C, 07-09-2003 10:22:18

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TP from Central PA

07-09-2003 13:59:23

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Re: Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt. in reply to Kelly C, 07-09-2003 10:22:18

Kelly, your learning quick!!!!! Anything mowed without conditioner rolls is going to take a long while to dry..... .....People had the same problem here with alfalfa and a sickle bar....Took forever to dry, so they put a put behind conditioner behind the sickle bar, then the haybine came along and on a good day you can mow one morning and bale the next night!

If this hay is showing minor moisture..... Salt it! Stack the cut side from the baler up and through salt on it..... ..We had some alfalfa last week that was extremely damp, but the rain was coming and I chose to bale it..... ...I salted it when we put it in and I got some down today..... ....Dry as a bone!!!!!

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Roy in UK

07-09-2003 11:34:19

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Re: Dang Oats hay is kickin my butt. in reply to Kelly C, 07-09-2003 10:22:18

I remember years ago when I was still a kid we used to make a bit now and again,a mixture of barley, oats and lucerne ( alfalfa? ) and I seem to remember it needed a lot of sun to dry it ( we do get sunny days in England, honest!) It was in the days before wild oat herbicides really got going. They used to pick a field that was bad for wild oats, and drill it with that mixture. The idea was that the wild oats would be still green when the crop was cut. I remember one guy told me that many years ago he tried it on a field "that was a b____r for wild oats". One year oats hay, then roots ( potatoes or sugar beet ) then oats hay, then roots again etc. etc. for 5or 6 years or so. Then they followed it with a crop of wheat. Suffice to say he said the wheat crop was full of wild oats!
How do organic farmers control wild oats?

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