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TW

06-22-1999 10:42:30




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What Is The Best Way To Keep Grass And Weeds Out Of A Corn Feld. I Have Tried Spraying Roundup Ultra Before Planting,But This Did Not Help Very Much.I Always Plow At The Start Of The Growing Season. I Have This Problem Every Year. Thanks For Any Help. TW




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Greg

07-07-1999 01:29:51




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 Re: Grass Weeds in reply to TW, 06-22-1999 10:42:30  
A good heavy cover crop before planting next time will choke many weeds as well as improve the tilth and nutrient balance of the soil. Buckwheat is one of the best if you can get it cheap enough. I have fought similar problems myself with cover crops. The trick is to plant them so thick that they shade out the weeds quickly. Buckwheat or mungbean grows so quickly that it will help alot. I think it would cost less than roundup also. Mulching helps also. Hope th

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paul

06-27-1999 21:25:41




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 Re: Grass Weeds in reply to TW, 06-22-1999 10:42:30  
There are several sprays you can use to get grasses. The old standby was Lasso, not 2,4-d which is for braodleaves. Dual works well put on with the planter if you are so equiped. Surpass works great, but is restricted use. Several products are combinations for grass & braodleaves. Talk to your local suppliers or ag centers.

For non-spray systems: Plow in fall!!!!! !! Spring plowing really, really makes it really, really tough to get the grasses. Plow in fall, and use sevral shallow tillage passes in spring to kill off a lot the new sprouts. If you dig too deep you will dig up more grass seeds, so keep the spring tillage shallow, every 4-5 days. Some years the grass will still take over, but this gives you the best odds. Cultivate early & often as well.

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Gerald

06-22-1999 17:31:51




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 Re: Grass Weeds in reply to TW, 06-22-1999 10:42:30  
Round up only affects live plants it hits. That leaves out grass that's still underground.

If you are going to keep down grass you have to put down a herbicide that lasts a month or so.

Otherwise you have to follow my scheme (which isn't working this year because of it being too wet.)

Plow and disk. Then the day of planting run a field cultivator through the field to cut off the grass thats just getting ready to come up. The disk only ENCOURAGES grasses, doesn't kill them much. Then rotary hoe two or three times at three day intervals, providing the surface is dry enough to crack. If its damp you accomplish nothing with the rotary hoe. If you wait to see grass sprouts, you have waited too long. Rain by the bucket after planting has wasted my hoeing time this year. Next you cultivate with a row cultivator to cut off the grasses and leave a loose layer of drying dirt to discourage the weeds until the corn gets tall enough to shade the weeds. On the second cultivator pass you toss dirt into the row to bury grasses in the row.

I had a plan for this year. I was going to plow and disk early (say by April 15 in central Iowa), then pack the surface with a cultipacker to encourage the weeds. Then attack the growing weeds a month later with field cultivator sweeps to cut them off an inch or two below the ground and plant. Since it rained from April 15 to May 24, I didn't get it done. My corn and beans are now very green, and the rows are still visible, but may not be for another week unless I get in a cultivate thoroughly.

Gerald

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C.C.

06-22-1999 12:21:54




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 Re: Grass Weeds in reply to TW, 06-22-1999 10:42:30  
TW,
I've not fooled much with corn, but if I'm not mistaken everybody around here(eastern Kentucky) sprays with 2-4-d. Or at least that's what they use to spray with(as of a couple of years ago). It worked really well. I'd check with your local farm store and with the local extension agent. They should be able to tell you what is used and what works the best in your area. I will say it has been to dry to raise any corn here this year. Most people's corn isn't 8 inches high. It's really dry. Hope this helps. Casey

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Wayne

06-22-1999 16:46:07




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 Re: Re: Grass Weeds in reply to C.C., 06-22-1999 12:21:54  

24 D kills broad leaf weeds only. Accent can be sprayed on emerged grass and kill it. Several products can be applied before and after planting.



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Tim(nj)

06-24-1999 10:22:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Grass Weeds in reply to Wayne, 06-22-1999 16:46:07  
Harness Ultra at planting. If broadleaves come through, Permit and Banvel after corn is up. Pre-plant incorporated Bicep also works. However, these are restricted use, so you need an applicator's license, or have a commercial applicator do it for you.



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