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How common are Disk Plows?

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James

10-10-2003 17:22:56

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I have only seen one in person in my short life of 34 years. (north east Kansas) I don't see or hear of very many here on YT. The implement photo section says it has some disk plows, but most of them are 'one ways'. Are they more common in different parts of the country or Canada? I've heard people say disk plows are common down south, but I have to wonder if they were refering to 'one ways' when they said that.

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Jerry D in NC

10-12-2003 14:23:06

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

I believe that there is some confusion about two different implements. The classic disc plow was very similar to a moldboard plow in consturction in that each disc is independently mounted to the frame and each disc cuts a furrow and rolls it. (See ShepFL's Disc Plow photo and notice each disc has its own spindle) The "One Way" disc plow refers to a plow that is very much like a disc harrow gang and has a common axle going through each disc. (See Don in Tallahassee's photo and notice the discs are in a row) The disc plow here in NC was used in heavy clay areas as they take less HP to "cut" through the clay as opposed to having to be drug through like a moldboard. In fields that had been tended recently and had stubble you wanted to turn under the One Way would roll the dirt much like a plow but would cut a much wider path than a turning plow yet not going quite as deep. They more or less lost their value to the farmer here when they started getting 100+hp tractors that could pull big heavy offsets disc harrows and leave the field one pass smoother after the first trip.

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Jimmy King

10-12-2003 16:21:04

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Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Jerry D in NC, 10-12-2003 14:23:06

Thank you Jerry this is what I have been trying to get across. I guess I was not very clear on what I saying, you did a very good job.

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Jeff in Tn

10-11-2003 22:14:44

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

We have a Ferguson 2 bottom that my granddad used to pull with a Ferguson 35 special. Little tractor was handy as heck but light as a feather and the disc breaker as we called it is alot easier to pull than a moldboard plow. The last time I can remember us using it we were plowing ditches with the disc breaker hooked tothe Ferguson in the ditch and out JD 1530 hooked to the Ferguson with a chain. I always thought it was neat to watch work.

on another note I just had a man today give me a 2 bottome Oliver trip plow. I have never used one of these since we always had 3 point hitch plows so I am thinking I will be in the bottom playing in the morning :)))) Me, my 77,an Oliver plow, and good old earth, ahh life is good!

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bill in colo

10-11-2003 20:13:44

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

At the World Ag Expo in Tulare,Ca. last year there were two new Disk plows a switch plow built by a Texas firm on a old Baker plow co design and a rollover by a California firm. Both plows would need in excess of 200 hp tractors. I can probably can find the names of manufactures if anyone is interested.

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Chris Brown

10-11-2003 18:48:04

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

I'm 31 now ,when I was about 12 or 13 we got a 2 bottom ferguson disk breaking plow. It worked great in clean ground ,but in new ground plowing where we had cleared with the dozer it would ride up on the top of the ground going over small roots. I was pleased with it ,I wore it out in the next several years and we could not find new disks for it. It is still out in a fence row back home , I keep meaning to load it and bring it home and fix it up to use in the garden,just havent gotten around to it yet.

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ShepFL

10-12-2003 02:50:34

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Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Chris Brown, 10-11-2003 18:48:04

I got a lead on replacement disks if needed. Shoot me an email if interested.

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Bob

10-11-2003 16:28:20

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

My brother's father-in-law had an Allis Chalmers 3 furrow disc plow. I think it came with the WD-45 that he bought new in 1954. It hitched to the snap coupler. I have never seen a reversible disc plow.

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Jimmy King

10-11-2003 15:59:11

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

Also notice the disc set more square with the tractor than the one way. A disc plow will make a furrow like a bottom plow except the bottom will be concave a 3 disc will plow about 3 ft.

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Don in Tallahassee

10-11-2003 14:19:38

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

here is a picture of my disk plow that I got in Georgia and use on my wooded land in North Florida. It really works well. I am reclaoming some land that has been idle for thirty years.

Disk Plow

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ShepFL

10-12-2003 03:20:47

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Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Don in Tallahassee, 10-11-2003 14:19:38

ditto to Don's comments.

I had to redneck mine up to make it useful as 3pth. In the Implement Photo section query for "allis disk plow?" and you can see the original plow before I modified. Or click link if I inserted it correctly.

I use mine in new ground and also in my planted pines. Stuckest thing I ever worked on was a 2 bottom moldboard plow buried into a "fatlighter" stump.

These plows tend to really cut the sod, gotta move fairly quick to get it to roll over. On worked ground in my experience they are great and seem to take less hp then moldboard plow. This plow is used exclusively on pine fields, I have an Oliver 4340 3btm moldboard plow that is undergoing rework for this spring's plowing.

Original plow b4 redneckin'

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Wheat Straw

10-12-2003 18:57:52

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Re: Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to ShepFL, 10-12-2003 03:20:47

Shep,
you did a nice clean job on the red neck'n. Wish I was that good with shade tree'n.

wheat Straw

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Don

10-11-2003 17:30:04

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Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Don in Tallahassee, 10-11-2003 14:19:38

Yes this is a Mounted Disk Plow the scrapers were optional

Disk Plow

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Jimmy King

10-11-2003 18:59:55

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Re: Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Don, 10-11-2003 17:30:04

Yes Don but if you look at the top of that picture it says direct mounted one way disc plow. Then there is just a straight disc plow if you look at the two pictures in the Imp. Photos you can see the difference.

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Jimmy King

10-11-2003 15:21:29

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Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Don in Tallahassee, 10-11-2003 14:19:38

Don I think what you have is a 3 point one way note how close the disc are and no scrapers. Look at the picture 1st. or 2nd. in the Imp. photos, John Deere trailer plow the disc are further apart and the have scrapers on the disc to throw the dirt like a bottom plow. Then look at the picture # 96 to 111 John Deere Gang plow that is a one way.

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Photo posted in Implement

10-11-2003 10:29:50

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

See Implement Photos section on the left. This is what I call a disk plow.

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10-11-2003 08:37:35

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

Hi James, Also in North East Kansas, and have worked with both. Uncles had an old Case one-way that rolled over roughly a 6 foot path. Dad had a 3 bottom discplow that we pulled with a late B and a 50 John Deere. Those have both been gone for years. I did run on to a John Deere 4 bottom disc plow on a iron buyers truck headed to a torch a couple years ago, and managed to rescue it. Its an earlier model, and I haven't had a chance to work it yet. Don

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Lou S.E. La.

10-11-2003 07:00:52

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

In the 50's and 60's there were alot of small dairy farms in this area which grew corn for silage.There were a lot of Disc plows used then.There are some still in the fence rows but as the farms got bigger the tillage styles have changed.I have never seen any one ways around here

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Jimmy King

10-11-2003 06:53:27

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

James I live in SW Mo. You hardly ever see a disc plow any more. We used a 3 disc on an H later an M and a 2 disc on a B, SA, and 230 Granddads first tractor was a regular and they used a 3 disc on it. We have a lot of flint rock and limestone, and the disc will roll around big rocks. I have had it turn the H sideways to the furrow manytimes. A 3 disc would plow about 3ft. so when you went into a 20 or 30 acre you were going to be there a while. H would plow in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. M in 3rd. the auto reset bottom plows, Offset plow and chisel plow put the disc plows out of business. The one way disc plows were used in the wheat land the disc were closer togather and the did not have scrapers on them and I have been told that they sharpen the disc on a oneway.

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paul

10-11-2003 04:50:22

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

Here in southern Minnesota, when you say 'plow' it only means a regular, molboard, go-round-the-field, plow. We don't know anything else around here!

I've seen 3-4 very old, unused 'disk plows' which had 2-3 'bottoms' (or big disks) at auctions. I hear our rocks are not kind to them.

So, what is a one-way plow?????

Just like a 'disk' is always a tandem (4 gang) thing many of you call a 'disk harrow'. We don't know much of anything but the regular disk around here, see a couple of offset disks but that's all.

Plow.
Disk.

I guess we keep it simple - does that make us simple-minded? :)

--->Paul

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Bill

10-10-2003 20:27:37

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

I saw one at a farm auction in central-western VA about a month ago. I think it had two disks. I don't think it brought much, but looked to be in very good condition. I might have bid on it, but really know nothing about these type plows, except have seen them in some old Massey Ferguson brochures.

Bill

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Dale in Ar.

10-10-2003 19:59:16

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

Here in N.W. Arkansas,the disk plows are common because they don't turn up as many rocks and they cut roots on new ground.Myself,I have a two bottom disk(as I call it) for my two point hitch on my Farmall Super C.I hardly use it any more,except to cut ditches.I might add that plowing is not done much around here any more unless it is new ground.We have gone mostly to pasture land for beef and don't have to do much planting anymore.

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they have a purpose here

10-10-2003 19:45:02

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

One great advantage of the disk plow is that they roll over many things that would hang up another regular plow

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Rob

10-10-2003 18:25:02

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

You're asking a question that's a matter of semantics. Offset, Breaking, Rhome, Tandem, Double, Disker, One way, Disk Harrow, Plow, Mouldboard, Bottom, One way, etc., etc. Some are different, some are the same and different folks call them by different names in various parts. Those who remember the "Dust Bowl" or as it's know up here, the "Dirty Thirties" can tell you why they went out of general use. They all bury sod or trash exposing the land and with big scale farming the soil loss is huge. It's been estimated that the Plains/Prairies have already lost 1/4 or more the soil that was here a 100 years ago. You might want to look for an old book called "The Plowmans' Folly" It's dated but there's a reason "modern" agriculture has gone to low/no till and air drills/seeders. M2CW.

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James

10-10-2003 19:27:43

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Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to Rob, 10-10-2003 18:25:02

I'm trying to get around the semantics(because that word is bigger than my vocabulary). Everyone knows what a moldboard plow is, and they are sitting everywhere. Whether they are 70 years old or 15 years old. Whether they have been replaced by no-till, or whether they are still being used annually, they are everywhere. What I'm talking about is a 'plow' which uses 'large' disks in place of the moldboard. Each disk has its own beam.

Where I come from, they are not just sitting around in every tree line or out behind the barn. My question is, are they sitting around 'everywhere' in your part of the world?

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kyhayman

10-12-2003 06:03:06

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Re: Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 19:27:43

Never seen one until I looked at this post.

We either used a moldboard or a bog harrow. Now it's notil or chisel except for tobacco.

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Jimmy King

10-11-2003 22:11:59

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Re: Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 19:27:43

I still have a fast hitch 3 disc plow the old H M 150 3 disc plow and a 3 disc trailer plow are in the retired machinery place on my Uncle's farm.

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StanTN

10-11-2003 21:44:05

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Re: Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 19:27:43

Yes, usually horse drawn sulkys. But you only see them down in the valley, to rocky in the Smokys.

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kjm

10-11-2003 18:31:16

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Re: Re: Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 19:27:43

North East MO I never saw one till bought one in South West MO.

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10-10-2003 18:17:47

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

In eastern Ontario Canada, there were several 2 furrow disk plows in the late 50's early 60s. Once saw 3 furrow one. Farmers used them on corn stubble. You could travel quicker than with a conventional plow but then the high speed/trip/auto reset bottoms were invented for the mould board plow and you could plow as fast as disk plow.

Plowed sod once and only once with 2 furrow disk plow. Had to plow length ways and cross ways to get all the sod.

This is how I remember disk plows.
JB

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Jerry (AL)

10-10-2003 18:09:54

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Re: How common are Disk Plows? in reply to James, 10-10-2003 17:22:56

I have one but it is a one way. You don't see many any more. There are sites on the internet where you can buy them new. But, again, I have never seen anything but a one way disk plow.

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