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AC 303 Baler Knotters

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Alex Rogers

03-09-2004 17:12:33

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I also posted this on the AC Forum, but here goes:

I've been working on a 303 baler for my neighbor. I cleaned it up and ran some hay through it.

Then I tried threading the needles but the knotters wouldn't catch the twine. The needles would run up through the knotters, and the twine wouldn't catch in anything.

I don't have a manual for an Allis baler (probably where I should have started; I have NH and MF manuals that I thought would be sufficient).

Is there a different way to thread the needles, besides running twine through the tips of the needles and tying them back on the needle swing frame?

I'm thinking that the needles are out of alignmentt, in that their pitch is too high and they're not close enough to the twine holder discs for the twine to register in them. Is this idea any good?

ANY information on the service, availibility of parts, operation and whats wrong with the knotters of this baler would be great!

Thank you much for any help,

Alex Rogers, Lansdowne Farm.

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Jerry D in NC

03-10-2004 10:26:19

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Re: AC 303 Baler Knotters in reply to Alex Rogers, 03-09-2004 17:12:33

OK I know nothing about AC balers but they should have one of two basic knotter designs. Does the billhook point at right angles to the bale chamber and have a wiper arm that strips the knot off the billhook like a JD, NH ande Ford or does the billhookpoint to the rear of the baler and the bale pulls the knot off the hook like an IH and MF? I am familiar with the JD,NH and Ford style and would offer this as a first thing to do. Thread the needles like you think they are supposed to be done and then trip the knotters and slowly turn the flywheel by hand. As the needles rise you can watch and see what is happening i.e the twine disc timing is off, the needles are not adjusted to hit the notch etc. Try that and get back with us.

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