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Allan in NE

09-09-2004 06:50:33




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Hi Guys,

Was reading the post below about the ensilage cutter and just got to wondering.

Does anyone else stack the corn silage on the ground like I do? The yearly 90-acre mountain building project?

Haul it into the yard, run it thru the calves, then next spring haul it all back out to the field again? :>)

Allan




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Canadian Ken

09-09-2004 21:11:43




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
This was always my favourite job on our dairy farm in Ontario. We had a custom guy for years. When I was 18, we started with a NH S717 with a 1 row. Then came a NH 718, 2 row powered by a JD 2955. Now we have a NH 770, 2 row. Sold the dairy in February 2003, but still do custom work for smaller farmers . Looking at some self propelled machines. I would like a NH 1880 or 1890, 3row. That way I don't have to spend all fall trying to pay for the machine. We always hired two bachelor brothers to cut roads through the fields. They first had a NH 1880 with a Detroit Diesel engine. The combination of the cut and throw design and the detroit engine running wide open used to send goosebumps up my spine. I just loved the sound of that machine cutting corn. You could hear them for probably 3 miles.They now use a NH 1895, 3 row. That machine is so quiet, you can't hardly hear them when they go down the field. It just doesn't give me the same adreneline rush that the 1880 did, but it is a lot easier on the ears!!!! Ken

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Cliff Neubauer

09-09-2004 19:58:49




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
We have made piles on the ground before but we have a 20x60' silo that we fill with corn silage every year. Chopping would be fun if we could go more than four loads at a time without breaking down. We have an IH 830 chopper pulled by an IH 5488, two NH #8 silage wagons and a NH 27 chopper powered by a 1066, we use a 706 to pull the wagons with. With a two row head on the chopper running at 5.5 mph I can fill a wagon in less than 10 minutes, then I get to sit at least that long until the other get's emptied and shows up. There are five upright silo's within two miles of our's that are sitting empty (one was only filled one time) but I think it would cost more to have them moved than they are worth.

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Cliff Neubauer

09-09-2004 19:58:07




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
We have made piles on the ground before but we have a 20x60' silo that we fill with corn silage every year. Chopping would be fun if we could go more than four loads at a time without breaking down. We have an IH 830 chopper pulled by an IH 5488, two NH #8 silage wagons and a NH 27 chopper powered by a 1066, we use a 706 to pull the wagons with. With a two row head on the chopper running at 5.5 mph I can fill a wagon in less than 10 minutes, then I get to sit at least that long until the other get's emptied and shows up. There are five upright silo's within two miles of our's that are sitting empty (one was only filled one time) but I think it would cost more to have them moved than they are worth.

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Can't use my own name

09-10-2004 06:25:55




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 09-09-2004 19:58:07  
You get four loads before a break down... What is your secret! Ha ha!



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Can't even use my name

09-09-2004 18:56:20




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
Most people around here use bunkers. There are quite a few uprights yet and a good number of bags too. We used to use a bunker along with our 4 20X80's when we milked 250 cows, filled with both haylage and corn silage. Down to just 50 cows now and a 50 head beef herd so we only put corn silage into the 20X80's. We use a 130 horse Case 1270 on a CaseIH 881 two row, four wagons, and another 1270 on a 1000 rpm NH #40 blower. Takes three good days to fill each silo but something is always going wrong!

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Jim in IA

09-09-2004 18:43:43




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
When my dad was milking cows we had a bunk silo. NH 790 chopper with a fargo dump wagon and a 72 F-700 dump truck, we sold the cows 2 yrs ago. I now work for a dairy farmer who puts all his silage in bags it is a slower process but what beutiful feed it makes. To answer your question on my dads farm we would sometimes pile it on the ground when the bunk ran out of space...Jim



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Jimmy King

09-09-2004 16:45:20




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
Grew up on the farm I live on milked Jerseys rasised Reg. Durocs showed hogs at The Ozark Empire and Missouri State Fairs, plus several State and national duroc shows. Baled about 100 acres of alfalfa filled two trench silos. Had a Alis chalmers chopper pulled it some with the H, not realy horse enough used a m once WD alis once then two or three years a U MM pulled it fine drank about 40 or 50 gal of gas a day. Put a power unit on the chopper pulled it with Dads cousins Super C used the fast hitch to raise and lower header. Quit filling silo after 1961 really don't know why. My Uncle and I were talking the other day he and dad were partners, and he said he really didn't know why. chopper is setting over the hill at my farm. We used corn or sorgo did some grass silage.

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Jimmy King

09-09-2004 16:43:44




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
Grew up on the farm I live on milked Jerseys rasised Reg. Durocs showed hogs at The Ozark Empire and Missouri State Fairs, plus several State and national duroc shows. Baled about 100 acres of alfalfa filled two trench silos. Had a Alis chalmers chopper pulled it some with the H, not realy horse enough used a m once WD alis once then two or three years a U MM pulled it fine drank about 40 or 50 gal of gas a day. Put a power unit on the chopper pulled it with Dads cousins Super C used the fast hitch to raise and lower header. Quit filling silo after 1961 really don't know why. My Uncle and I were talking the other day he and dad were partners, and he said he really didn't know why. chopper is setting over the hill at my farm. We used corn or sorgo did some grass silage.

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thurlow

09-09-2004 09:05:36




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
Quit the silage in the mid-80s; had two trench silos; new by-pass got the larger of them; went to all big round bales. Bale hay from May thru October. With the silage, one week's work put up the winter's feed. Also did a lot of (local) custom cutting (10 - 12 customers). Ours was a beef cattle operation....cow/calf. We used pull-behind 4-wheel farms trailers...2 - 4 trailers; 1 - 3 hauling tractors; one tractor at the "pit" to unload/pack; 5 - 7 men. I probably enjoyed running the silage cutter (when everything worked right) as much as anything I've ever done on the farm....2 row A C cutter behind a 4020; with the right combination of corn/ground speed, it would take most of the 90 horses for hours on end. Cutter had "J" shaped cut-and-throw knives; with the right conditions, you could hear it "moan" for 2 or 3 miles..... ..really miss it.

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JC in ky

09-09-2004 08:31:47




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
Yea we raise about 300 acers of corn a yaer. 150 to chop the rest to shell. Really helps cut the feed bill. There are a few farmers who are still using silos around here but most have been gotten by tornados at one time or another. We store ours in a pile and have been doing it for as long as I can remember. My uncle does the chopping with a NH 790 2 row chopper and a dump wagon tied to a 7710 seris 2 Ford. We used to use rear discharge wagons but are now using trucks to haul with. I do the packing with a 7700 Ford with a loader. We run dules and about 2000 pounds of weight hanging off the back. It does a pretty good job for what we do. Just this year we made a flat blade to push silage with and it does ten times better than the bucket. I enjoy it but like to others said with one comes the other. Well time to milk Cya fellas. JC

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daniel preston

08-14-2005 17:15:45




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to JC in ky, 09-09-2004 08:31:47  
How many acers of corn needs to be planted to get enough silage for a cow for one year?



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kyhayman

09-09-2004 07:11:33




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 06:50:33  
I built and above ground silo back in the mid 80's, 48'x300'x10'. Used it, and upright and 2-3 bags. Made good money feeding it to thin head cows. Had some on silage and some on distillers slop (thin stillage) and rough hay. Lost the lease on that farm in '91, its all under houses now.



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Indydirtfarmer

09-09-2004 07:18:54




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to kyhayman, 09-09-2004 07:11:33  
The ONLY thing I liked about growing up on a dairy farm was silo filling time. Dad would chop, and I would pull the wagons to the silo. Uncle would handle the blower. The rest of dairy farming was pure agony to me. John



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kyhayman

09-09-2004 12:35:36




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2004 07:18:54  
My neighbors that milk have a schedule I like , most milk at 7 and 7 or 9 and 9. Dad bought a dairy farm the year I was born, sold the cows in '73. Never gone back.

Would like to get back to trading thin cows. Most of the time when I was in high school and college we'd buy 300-400 broken mouthed cows on the head cow market in the fall, worm them, feed them good all winter. Half would calve in the spring and we'd run them on grass until July or so, sell the others as pound cows in March.Cows would gain enough to pay all the overhead and the calves would be profit.

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Allan in NE

09-09-2004 08:04:34




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2004 07:18:54  
Agony. :>)

John, that's the perfect word for it. "Agony".

Especially in the wintertime, right? Frozen teats, sloppy conditions and can anyone say the word mastitis? :>)

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

09-09-2004 08:22:23




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 Re: Corn Sileage in reply to Allan in NE, 09-09-2004 08:04:34  
My biggest gripe was the hours involved. Up at 3:00AM. In the parlor by 3:30. Work like a dog for hours. Then go do a days work. Back at it by 3:00PM. Finish around dark. 365 days a year. Untill I got out of highschool, I would have to come home from school and milk every day I left for the Army as soon as I turned 18..... ..just so I could get away from those friggin' holstiens. Dad sold off the herd in 1984. That brought me back to the farm. To this day, I almost cry when I see a gallon of milk. John

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