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Warren

10-07-1999 08:33:37




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Kim's previous question about a back blade reminded me of a question that I have had for several years. Is there an easy way to attach a blade to my existing loader? Can my 3 point blade be easily modified to be used as both a front blade and as a 3 point blade? Are there commercially available brackets out there that will allow you to convert?
I think a blade on the front instead of my bucket would be a lot easier to plow snow, but I am concerned about what would happen if I hit a frozen rut or a stone. Would the blade have to be spring loaded like the plows mounted on trucks?

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Duke

10-08-1999 09:58:12




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 Re: Front snow blade in reply to Warren, 10-07-1999 08:33:37  
I have a plow blade on my 8N that I've used for years with no problem. It pins to the loader arms just like the bucket.I also have a "float" position on the spool valve so if the blade hits anything it jumps up. Only problem is I can't angle the blade, but it still gets the farm plowed out. Also have 500 lbs. on the back.



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Duke

10-08-1999 09:55:14




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 Re: Front snow blade in reply to Warren, 10-07-1999 08:33:37  
I have a plow blade on my 8N that I've used for years with no problem. It pins to the loader arms just like the bucket.I also have a "float" position on the spool valve so if the blade hits anything it jumps up. Only problem is I can't angle the blade, but it still gets the farm plowed out. Also have 500 lbs. on the back.



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john d

10-07-1999 15:02:26




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 Re: Front snow blade in reply to Warren, 10-07-1999 08:33:37  
About 20+ years ago, I decided to put some sort of blade on the front of a Farmall SM with a loader. My top priority was going to be able to push a little dirt around which had been dug up and left pretty rough. The more I thought about it, the more carried away I got, and I built far more blade than I needed for the dirt pushing, but the end result was a much more effective snow-pushing machine than I expected.

I removed the bucket from a BushHog/Freeman 2000 loader, started putting pieces where I wanted them to end up, and began welding. I put a piece of channel iron on edge, stuck the loader arms inside the channel from the back, and welded in some tabs with holes so I could pin the channel to the loader arms the same way the bucket had mounted. Then I welded two smaller pieces of channel iron vertically to this one in front of the loader arms. I tipped them back about 10 degrees or so, and made braces that fit between the loader arms and these vertical pieces, which were about 3' long. Then I mounted a used road grader blade on the front of the lower channel iron and covered the front with some steel sheet that was over 1/8" thick, and added more braces where I thought they might help.

By this time.... some of my neighbors were having more fun at my expense than the law should allow! You'd have thought I was Noah building the Ark! The blade ended up being 8' wide and about 40" tall. Even I was beginning to think I had WAY more blade than tractor.

I pushed a little dirt with it that summer, had reasonable success in doing what I wanted to do with it. Even found out it was heavy enough that it did a pretty good job of grading when dropped to the ground and dragged backwards. (Single-acting hydraulics on the SM)

When winter came, I put the thing on the tractor again and to my pleasant surprise, and the amazement of my neighbors, I had a snow-pushing machine!

I added some weight to the back of the SM, set the blade about 3" off the ground, put the tractor in 4th gear, and cleared snow off the road that was stopping the 4wd trucks. It's not spring loaded, it's not fancy, it doesn't even angle to the side, but snow has to be drifted pretty badly to stop the old thing! Every year I tell myself I should build another one in a V shape, but so far, this one's done quite well.

I think a 3 pt blade on a loader frame would be a very good way to start constructing a workable front blade. Be advised, however, that any tractor of more than 4000 lbs. is going to put severe strain on that blade and its mounting if you go fast enough to build up momentum and then hit something!

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john d

10-07-1999 15:00:38




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 Re: Front snow blade in reply to Warren, 10-07-1999 08:33:37  
About 20+ years ago, I decided to put some sort of blade on the front of a Farmall SM with a loader. My top priority was going to be able to push a little dirt around which had been dug up and left pretty rough. The more I thought about it, the more carried away I got, and I built far more blade than I needed for the dirt pushing, but the end result was a much more effective snow-pushing machine than I expected.

I removed the bucket from a BushHog/Freeman 2000 loader, started putting pieces where I wanted them to end up, and began welding. I put a piece of channel iron on edge, stuck the loader arms inside the channel from the back, and welded in some tabs with holes so I could pin the channel to the loader arms the same way the bucket had mounted. Then I welded two smaller pieces of channel iron vertically to this one in front of the loader arms. I tipped them back about 10 degrees or so, and made braces that fit between the loader arms and these vertical pieces, which were about 3' long. Then I mounted a used road grader blade on the front of the lower channel iron and covered the front with some steel sheet that was over 1/8" thick, and added more braces where I thought they might help.

By this time.... some of my neighbors were having more fun at my expense than the law should allow! You'd have thought I was Noah building the Ark! The blade ended up being 8' wide and about 40" tall. Even I was beginning to think I had WAY more blade than tractor.

I pushed a little dirt with it that summer, had reasonable success in doing what I wanted to do with it. Even found out it was heavy enough that it did a pretty good job of grading when dropped to the ground and dragged backwards. (Single-acting hydraulics on the SM)

When winter came, I put the thing on the tractor again and to my pleasant surprise, and the amazement of my neighbors, I had a snow-pushing machine!

I added some weight to the back of the SM, set the blade about 3" off the ground, put the tractor in 4th gear, and cleared snow off the road that was stopping the 4wd trucks. It's not spring loaded, it's not fancy, it doesn't even angle to the side, but snow has to be drifted pretty badly to stop the old thing! Every year I tell myself I should build another one in a V shape, but so far, this one's done quite well.

I think a 3 pt blade on a loader frame would be a very good way to start constructing a workable front blade. Be advised, however, that any tractor of more than 4000 lbs. is going to put severe strain on that blade and its mounting if you go fast enough to build up momentum and then hit something!

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HR

10-08-1999 04:14:41




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 Re: Re: Front snow blade in reply to john d, 10-07-1999 15:00:38  
John D: That was interesting story about your dirt\snow blade. We also built a blade about 8ft wide and maybe 30 inches high with maybe 30 degree angle to the side..and mounted on the front of a loader on a SMD.. I used it to clear snow on a grass airstrip and had to be real careful of hardpack snow as it would snap the front end to the side real quick..but when one is 18 years old nothing bad like a roll over can happen..right.. Best would have been to plow right away when snow is fresh\softer and the bitter cold from the backside of the storm hadn't set in yet..all in all it was fun 40years ago..harvey harvey

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HR

10-08-1999 04:13:27




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 Re: Re: Front snow blade in reply to john d, 10-07-1999 15:00:38  
John D: That was interesting story about your dirt\snow blade. We also built a blade about 8ft wide and maybe 30 inches high with maybe 30 degree angle to the side..and mounted on the front of a loader on a SMD.. I used it to clear snow on a grass airstrip and had to be real careful of hardpack snow as it would snap the front end to the side real quick..but when one is 18 years old nothing bad like a roll over can happen..right.. Best would have been to plow right away when snow is fresh\softer and the bitter cold from the backside of the storm hadn't set in yet..all in all it was fun 40years ago..harvey harvey

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B.C.

10-07-1999 11:06:06




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 Re: Front snow blade in reply to Warren, 10-07-1999 08:33:37  
I've seen times when people would make what amounted to bucket extensions or wings and mount them to manure or scoop buckets, so as to get a wider and deeper scoop for snow. If somebody makes a blade adaptor for rear blades I never saw one.

Most 2WD farm tractors have at least half or more of their weight on the rear axle. So if you get some noticeable lateral loading out in front on a bucket or blade, the front wheels won't be able to maintain enough traction to avoid the thing being "pushed sideways".

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Warren

10-07-1999 20:16:31




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 Re: Re: Front snow blade in reply to B.C., 10-07-1999 11:06:06  
Good point about the snow pushing the front of the tractor around, I didn't think about that. I have a Ford 5000 with a Bush Hog loader, so it is fairly heavy, but I can see where I would have some trouble with deep, heavy snow. I would probably have to steer with the brakes sometimes. Extra weight on the front end of the tractor would also help.
Thanks for the input.



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