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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 03:58:51




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Hey you Guys!

I've always liked the 500 Cyclo planters. Now that I'm on a mission to get back into the farming game, I'm kinda looking for a good 6-row unit.

Don't see 'em around anymore. So, I ask the local dealer here why.

He tells me that is because they are all still out on farms working, but that they are readily available and easy to find. Also, that I can buy one for a song, but the trouble is, it will take some cash to get one back into working condition.

What do you guys think of 'em? I always thought they were a pretty darned good planter.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Allan

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MCL in IN

09-16-2004 13:04:48




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
I might as well have some fun too. You can't beat the performance of a White planter. The only thing to wear in the seed meter is two small brushes. No finger units or seed belts to wear out. They also have independent gauge wheels so if one hits a rock or something the whole planter unit doesn't raise up. We have a 1981 5100 8 row on 700 acres. Just do routine maintenance and repairs and it keeps planting corn. Down side to them is the lack of dealers any more. Will surely cost more than an older IH cyclo. We do have an IH 500 soybean planter. Something built in somebody's farm shop. Is about 15' wide with 16 or 18 row units. About all I can say is it plants beans and sounds like a jet airplane. Dad likes it but I would rather use the corn planter.

I am sure the IH planters are fine. I don't have a lot of experience with them. I sold John Deere parts for three years. I would have to congratulate the marketing people at JD for convincing so many farmers that the 7000 was such a fabulous machine. They were designed to keep the farmer coming to the dealer for finger units, belts, graphite, calibrating the seed meters, and all the aftermarket items to make them "work" better.

My opinion. I am sure to stir a hornets nest.

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John A.

09-15-2004 21:17:41




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
Allan We put some where between 10000 to 12000 acres on our old 6row 500 cyclo over about 10 yrs that was on corn and milo. before we traded it off for a new 900 cyclo. The only problem we ever had was the acra openers after they wore down didn't do as good a job of making a v-shaped seed trough.
Most people that have problems with doubles and skips, FAIL to remove the little brush from inside the seed drum at the end of planting and putting it up with the monitor and parts till next spring. Also turn the brush around, when halfway through planting season. Keeping the bushings well greased, and most importantly is to have exzactly the same air pressure in the gauge/drive tires.
I really liked the 500 monitor setup. It just let you know when a stop up occured.
The 900 monitor had TOO many featchers on it We never could get the indiviual row seed counts to come out anywhere close. So we just got out and checked, and checked, and checked some more. we finely figured out it couldn't count correctly.That is why we always ways scratched around once or twice a day. The planter as a whole just as good as our old 800 It had double disk openers, they worked well till they wore down over 1/2 in. Then they need to be replaced. If you are planting in wet ground. It had Lift Assist Wheels on it. They kind of get in the way on turnrows. but on open ground. it was pretty mutch bullit proof too.
Had row markers too. On circles was where it really shined.
Go For It Allan! Have fun!, Also NO you are not Crazy for wanting to Farm, Being happy in your work is a paramount thing, IMO.
Later,
John A.

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TP from Central PA

09-15-2004 14:56:13




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
Ran a 4 row Cyclo 400 here for acouple years now..... ...Very reliable machine and requires little up keep. Does a decent job in Corn and it was awesome planting beans! If the 400 was this good, I can"t imagine how the 800 could be any better!



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RickL

09-15-2004 14:10:04




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
Allen; Get you 800 or 900 series and you will be very happy. I ran Deeres 7000 and assemble the blue Deeres. But I will still stay with red planter in my operation. It just simpler less parts etc. Have two units for sale 6row and a 12 row Horizontal fold unit. Very nice panter.



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RickL

09-15-2004 14:08:26




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
Allen; Get you 800 or 900 series and you will be very happy. I ran Deeres 7000 and assemble the blue Deeres. But I will still stay with red planter in my operation. It just simpler less parts etc. Have two units for sale 6row and a 12 row Horizontal fold unit. Very nice panter.



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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 14:42:54




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to RickL, 09-15-2004 14:08:26  
Hey Rick!

Thanks! Can you pop me a picture of the 6-row? They do make a 3-point model??? That ought to handle 160 acres okay.

I'm not familiar with this series at all.

I just know that I really like the Cyclos and thought they were the cat's meow! Even with all the bad press. :>)

email is uncovered if you would be so kind.

Allan



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RickL

09-16-2004 07:32:21




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 14:42:54  
Allen; Will have to get pic of 6 row unit. The twelve row unit is on www.RickSales.com site. Look under used equipment. The 6 row is pulltype and are you sure you want 3pt. Let me know. Rick



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JMS/MN

09-15-2004 11:21:41




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
A few years ago I bought a 400 6RW Cyclo with the intention of making it into a narrow row bean planter. Got it cheap, will sell it the same way, because things have changed over the years and I don't farm much now. Idea was still good though. Have you seen the 'hybrid' planters? Farmers like the IH drum/selection system, but use JD7000 row units to put seed into the ground- because of the uniform depth. In sheer numbers, JD 7000 beats the IH to pieces- most popular machine on the face of the earth- it's because they work better where the seed hits the earth!

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Gerald J.

09-15-2004 08:51:47




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
I've tossed seed out with a Cyclo 400 6 row narrow for several years. But no more.

It is HANDY to load just one tank. And very UNhandy to find it not feeding the drum because the tank seams leak too much. It was precise about the total seed count to the farm once I put in a new brush to cut down on the doubles with small flat seed corn. It counts better with round seed, but there's only a dozen round seed per ear so finding round seed can be impossible in some varieties, and more costly in others.

Its very UNhandy to find that there's the same amount of seed in the tank at the end of the field that was there at the beginning because the fan belt was slipping and the pressure low, or the air flow backwards up the tank to drum tube kept seed from feeding the drum (no monitor).

Its UNhandy to have to supply PTO power whether for the belt drive or a hydraulic pump just to run the fan. That means you have little choice in tractor engine speed, and so only as many ground speed choices as you have gears though some will always be way too fast.

Its UNhandy to have to swab out the pipes where critters love to build cocoons. And that includes the air vent pipe between drum and seed tank with a right angle fitting on the tank end to make it hard to complete the swab.

Its UNproductive to find the seed was counted precisely, but planted in bunches with gaps wide enough to walk between the plants without turning sideways or bending any stalks. That cuts production significantly. So unless you are independently wealthy and farming for a fun of it, not for profit, the old Cyclo is a bad investment.

I found a good use for my parts Cyclo. 4 row wide, the outer rows fit down the middle between narrow rows, I moved one row unit to the middle, and made it into a liquid N side dresser using a JD squeeze pump. I stole a few parts from the 6 row narrow and I'd not classify it as a PLANTER, so I probably won't try to sell it except as scrap iron once I get tired of taking parts off for other projects.

The White 5100 has a pretty good reputation but uses air. The JD 7000 has a well deserved fine reputation, and works better with Kinze bean units for beans. The finger units work fine for corn, they do need repairs and calibration. Spacing is almost as good as the latest of planters and the cost is significantly less than a new White or JD planter or even a modern Cyclo that has solved many but not all of the faults of the original Cyclo (varying friction out the long pipes).

A 6 row 7000 will probably cost upwards of $3000 if not worn out (saw one at a farm auction in Greene County Iowa last week go for $3200) while when you find a Cyclo 400 or 500 it will go for its value as scrap iron, probably $100 or $200.

Spend the money for the 7000, it will pay it back in increased crop production.

Gerald J.

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doc diesel

09-15-2004 07:12:43




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
geeeess..... you guys need to calm down, your gonna give birth to a kubota or sommthing if you dont chill.... anyway, own whichever you like. i have a 955 cyclo nice machine, but deere has a good one to. however, just remember if you get injured you'll still bleed RED!!!!! !!!!!



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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 07:56:23




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to doc diesel, 09-15-2004 07:12:43  
Usually when I bleed, it is accompanied by pain. SO, IH=RED, RED=BLEED BLEED=PAIN. Therefore, IH=PAIN....John



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doc diesel

09-16-2004 06:32:45




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-15-2004 07:56:23  
ooouuuccchhhh!!! that hurt



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paul

09-15-2004 06:40:39




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
800's are pretty good, 900 and above people started liking them 'here'. The 200 just about put IH out of the planter business locally, and don't see any 500s at all. Guess people were so fed up of the 400, they didn't go for the 500 at all?

The 400 doesn't handle hills well, and has uneven spacing for corn which can hurt yields.

You see farm after farm with all red tractors & combines, but the planter is green or White behind those red tractors....

Personally, I'd go for a newer Case, or something different.

--->Paul

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rustyfarmall

09-15-2004 04:56:42




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
Allen, I'll keep my eyes open. Like you, I think these must have been a very good unit or there would not have been so many of them sold. I am sure that what Indy said about the maxemerge is true, but you could probably buy a farm with the money you would spend on one of those planters, and when it comes down to the facts, all planters are going to do the same thing, put seed in the ground.



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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 05:58:10




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to rustyfarmall, 09-15-2004 04:56:42  
All planter put seed in the ground. Just that some do it better. In MOST cases, it's more a case of set-up, than of brand, when it comes to doing that RIGHT. Everyone has different conditions in which to plant. Dry/wet. Clay/sand/loam. big acreage/small food plots. Then there is the difference in seed companies offerings. Fertilizer, pesticide, and herbicide applications differ too. With all of those variables, you need a planter that is flexable enough to adapt to YOUR conditions. That requires parts options. In most cases today, that means the availability of aftermarket parts to tailor your planter to your needs. That is where the Deere planters have a leg up on most everyone else. They are to planters what the small block Chevy engine is to cars. The "commonality of parts" and the availability of various combinations of aftermarket parts, makes them more adaptable to everyones needs. The IH Cyclo planter is a good design. They do their intended job well. It's just MUCH easier to live with a Deere planter. I used a 4 row planter for years. My father bought it new in 1977. We wore it out several times, and just kept rebuilding it. Over the years, we spent enough to buy 2 or 3 more planters. It was like the Energizer Bunny. It just kept Going and Going and..... . When I needed a bigger planter (8 row) I never questioned what kind it would be. I still own that 4 row. We keep it at one of our farms that is over 100 miles from the "main farm". It plants about 250 acres a year. We do that just to prevent from having to haul the 8 row over the road. If you're just planting a few acres, or have plenty of time at planting season, none of this is important. But when you're working a full-time "day job" and farming LOTS of acreage too, it requires a planter that won't let you down. I have that now with the John Deere planter. John

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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 05:58:07




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to rustyfarmall, 09-15-2004 04:56:42  
All planter put seed in the ground. Just that some do it better. In MOST cases, it's more a case of set-up, than of brand, when it comes to doing that RIGHT. Everyone has different conditions in which to plant. Dry/wet. Clay/sand/loam. big acreage/small food plots. Then there is the difference in seed companies offerings. Fertilizer, pesticide, and herbicide applications differ too. With all of those variables, you need a planter that is flexable enough to adapt to YOUR conditions. That requires parts options. In most cases today, that means the availability of aftermarket parts to tailor your planter to your needs. That is where the Deere planters have a leg up on most everyone else. They are to planters what the small block Chevy engine is to cars. The "commonality of parts" and the availability of various combinations of aftermarket parts, makes them more adaptable to everyones needs. The IH Cyclo planter is a good design. They do their intended job well. It's just MUCH easier to live with a Deere planter. I used a 4 row planter for years. My father bought it new in 1977. We wore it out several times, and just kept rebuilding it. Over the years, we spent enough to buy 2 or 3 more planters. It was like the Energizer Bunny. It just kept Going and Going and..... . When I needed a bigger planter (8 row) I never questioned what kind it would be. I still own that 4 row. We keep it at one of our farms that is over 100 miles from the "main farm". It plants about 250 acres a year. We do that just to prevent from having to haul the 8 row over the road. If you're just planting a few acres, or have plenty of time at planting season, none of this is important. But when you're working a full-time "day job" and farming LOTS of acreage too, it requires a planter that won't let you down. I have that now with the John Deere planter. John

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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 05:06:23




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to rustyfarmall, 09-15-2004 04:56:42  
Rusty,

You bet what he says is true, he is very knowledgeable and is out there in the dog-fight right now as we speak. I really value his opinion.

However, I still like the fact that I can back that 500 up to a truck and fill just one bin. :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 05:03:23




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Rusty,

You bet what he says is true, he is very knowledgeable and is out there in the dog-fight right now as we speak. I really value his opinion.

However, I still like the fact that I can back that 500 up to a truck and fill just one bin. :>)

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 04:21:45




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 03:58:51  
They have one GLARING fault.... They're NOT a John Deere Max-Emerge planter. They are the industry standard. More "aftermarket parts available, Most seed companies use them as the "gold standard". OEM parts are right off the shelf. AND...They outsold IH/Case IH by a 10 to 1 margin. There are WAY more planters on the market. Much easier to find a good one on the used market. John



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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 04:58:33




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-15-2004 04:21:45  
Whoa Hey!

John! Clam down and have some coffee. :>)

Sounds like you wanna relive that old war of 30 years ago.

Have a good one,

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 05:11:12




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 04:58:33  
First off, I don't need to re-live any war. WE WON! GREEN and YELLOW FOREVER! Secondly, It won't cost any more to repair a Deere planter than the IH Cyclo. Maybe less... Better parts availability, and more aftermarket parts. My 8 row Deere 7200 has an auger fill that allows me to fill from one end. One of the reasons I went with this model planter is the ease of loading. I use liquid fertilizer, so it's a single hose hook-up too. I don't drink coffee...Caffine is bad for the system. AND, I can't stand the taste. Other than that....Have a great day. John

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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 05:11:09




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 04:58:33  
First off, I don't need to re-live any war. WE WON! GREEN and YELLOW FOREVER! Secondly, It won't cost any more to repair a Deere planter than the IH Cyclo. Maybe less... Better parts availability, and more aftermarket parts. My 8 row Deere 7200 has an auger fill that allows me to fill from one end. One of the reasons I went with this model planter is the ease of loading. I use liquid fertilizer, so it's a single hose hook-up too. I don't drink coffee...Caffine is bad for the system. AND, I can't stand the taste. Other than that....Have a great day. John

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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 05:21:09




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-15-2004 05:11:09  
LOL!

Okay, I know. Let's change the subject.

I was gonna suggest that we talk about tractors, but I see now that that subject is probably gonna fall on deaf ears as well. :>)

Say! How 'bout those Mets?

Allan



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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 05:18:09




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-15-2004 05:11:09  
LOL!

Okay, I know. Let's change the subject.

I was gonna suggest that we talk about tractors, but I see now that that subject is probably gonna fall on deaf ears as well. :>)

Say! How 'bout those Mets?

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 05:29:14




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 05:18:09  
By the way. Have you ever noticed how all the major league baseball parks use GREEN and YELLOW JOHN DEERE equipment for maintaining their fields? John



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Indydirtfarmer

09-15-2004 05:24:12




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 Re: Cyclo planters in reply to Allan in NE, 09-15-2004 05:18:09  
I shoulda known..... .I'm a Cincinatti REDS fan. Every since the Pete Rose vs. Bud Harrelson incident in the 1972 play-offs, I'm ANTI-Mets....Go figure. John



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