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International 50T baler

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AZglide

09-18-2004 16:33:20




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Just saw a picture of one and was wondering if anyone has any interesting stories about using one. I have a few memories following along behind one as a kid but other than the one picture haven't seen any post about them. Were they rare or just so heavy that they were not that popular? The one my family used was powered by a cub engine and was pulled by an H.




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Aaron Davis

11-03-2004 09:06:46




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to AZglide, 09-18-2004 16:33:20  
My Dad purchased a used one sight unseen from Yoder & Fry of Archbald, Ohio in 1948. It used a Continental 10 horse water cooled engine. The engine may have been made at the Continental Plant in Muskegon, MI. He had been on the waiting list for a new John Deere wire tie. This was due to WWII and no steel for farm machinery to be made.

It came with a tongue and wheel by which to pull it. Dad traded it to get a straight hitch that placed the weight of the front of the baler on the tractor drawbar. We had hills in some fields and did want "jackknife" problems.

He had a blacksmith make chute so he loaded bales directly on wagons. I drove a 1938 John Deere A on the baler starting at 8 years old. We baled about 4000 bales of straw and 2000 bales of hay each year from 1948 till 1956.

The engine always started right up after laying over for the winter.

I sure would like to see one operate again!

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Farmall30

09-19-2004 11:41:15




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to AZglide, 09-18-2004 16:33:20  

My grandad Adolph Kassalhut had one, the only bailer in the country hereabouts NE Kansas, Doniphan Co. that I knew about. IT had, si I believe, a C,. or B engine on it. I cant believe a Cub engine would have ever pulled it as I have a 48 Cub. He pulled it with a 49 A JD. We lived in the Missouri River foothills where it is STEEP. He said once, (I got down to the bottom of the field and turned around, and the damg thing was acting like it was trying to eat me. I remember him bailing clover on his own place. Water was running out the chamber and the bales weighed a ton. Your probably thinking, what was the opurpose of bailing them that wet? Well it had rained several times and he just wanted to get the hay off the field. He threw it in a ditch when it started to heat up and he knew he wouldnt save it. He said many times afterwards that the cows damg near broke there necks to get down to the hay that winter to eat it. He forgot to put coolant or to drain the radiator on the engine and it busted the block and that was the end to the bailer. He hept it right where he last parked it for near 2o yrs till they had his sale. I guess it was to big to junk out and he was too old to haul it over the bridge to St Joe to sell it to a yard

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Jimmy King

09-19-2004 14:39:09




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to Farmall30, 09-19-2004 11:41:15  
Farmall30, the 50T came from the factory with a Cub or a Continal engine, all it had to pull was the baling part of the baler.



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Jimmy King

09-19-2004 07:25:30




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to AZglide, 09-18-2004 16:33:20  
I was born Nov 27, 1941. My Dad and his cousin bought a Case wire, hand tie, used during the war, I just do remember it. When the war was over they bought a new 50T, and a side delivery rake. For many years they ran 100,000 + bales through it doing custom work. The knotter was hard to keep, at it's best, but Dad was a good machanic. He could keep it tying. The 50 had two different engines on it Cub and Continial ours had a Continial We used it until about 1961 or 62, then bought a 68 N H. There was a problem in getting the rake in time to use when they bought the baler, so they also bought a David Bradley rake. Each year they would have to put a lot of teeth in the IH rake 1 or 2 in the David Bradley. When they traded the rakes off for a new style 36 Massey rake, the Bradley probley had 3 times the hrs on it as the IH. We pulled the 50T with Gene's B and Dads Super A if it was very hilly we would use the H on it, like the one post said the plunger would rock the tractor hard even the H. I remember I was baling once and only had a round to go, the drive shaft for the packer fingers U joint broke and it ate the fingers. Going down hills if the dolly wheel hit a rock and bounced it would try to pass the tractor all and all it was a good baler. There were a lot of them out there they were just short lived, because off the knotter and weight.

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Bill from wisc

09-19-2004 06:06:28




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to AZglide, 09-18-2004 16:33:20  
My dad bought a 50t and used it until 1964 when he bought a model MF 10 baler. It baled alot of bales, The problem was that for young teenage kids that it would almost work them to death. The kids were happy to see it go, tho it never gave any problems.It was a great machine for its time.



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Bigdog

09-18-2004 19:02:19




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to AZglide, 09-18-2004 16:33:20  
I spent many summers either behind or in front of a 50T. Many of those years we pulled it with an 8N Ford. That baler plunger would rock that little Ford back and forth like you wouldn't believe. The one we had was nearly bullet proof. It ran day in and day out with relatively few problems. But you're right it was as heavy as a tank.



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Shovelman

09-18-2004 18:17:39




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 Re: International 50T baler in reply to AZglide, 09-18-2004 16:33:20  
My first baler was a 50T. I was 16 years old at the time.

What a brute! When we brought it home, the LH wheel bearing got so hot it burned the paint off the hub. We were still 20 miles from home, so we used the only "coolant" we had available to us, as we took turns relieving ourselves on the hub. What a ugly sight it must have been, but it got us home. Today, they would have thrown us all in jail!

Yes, it had a four cylinder water cooled engine which only added to its' already overweight condition. Made a decent bale, but missed quite a few ties.

The baler's fate was decided when it took me and my John Deere B for a wild ride down a side hill and into the woods. It didn't hurt anything (except my undershorts) but gave me the incentive to buy my next baler, a little John Deere 14T.

My life was a lot less adventurous after the old 50T left..... ....

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Scott Goff

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