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What Are These Things?

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Allan in NE

04-16-2005 15:30:16




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Hi Guys,

Okay, Cyclo 500. What are these things? Air diffusers?

If so, what is their purpose? To let the seed just "drop" from that point on?

Thanks,

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

04-17-2005 03:22:10




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-16-2005 15:30:16  
Allan: They are whistles, and blow a very shrill sound that you will hear even in a tractor with cab if a seed tube becomes pluged at the ground. My planter was a 400 and was equiped with these. Not sure whether they were optional, must have been as I have seen cyclos without. They were very effective before monitors. Only miss I ever had was a seed tag got in tube between whistle and hopper. My planter was bad for pluging openers with soil if you were not moving as you lowered the it, just seemed to take a hesitation. Those whistles would catch that one every time.

Not saying they didn't perform function as others mentioned as well. You put a plug in the end of a seed tube, and start the air. I don't recomend it at 5 am if you have close neighbors or the missus is still in bed.

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Allan in NE

04-17-2005 05:46:05




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-17-2005 03:22:10  
Well Duh!!!

I should have been sharp enough to figure that one out; they do resemble deer whistles, I guess. Thanks. :>)

That was the first lesson I learned with the Cyclo too; never take it in or out of the ground unless you are moving; 'twas the one and only time I ever had a tube plug. :>)

I dumped the monitor after the first couple of years; it just wasn't worth the effort. I got in the habit of looking back at the end of the six rows I had just planted while making my turn.

Right after the planter had lifted, there would always be two or three seeds lying on top of the ground at each row. As long as I could always see these stragglers, I knew she was dropping okay.

Second, was the darned seed spacing that gave these planters their bad rap. That one was totally governed by ground speed. Don't get in a hurry, go by the ground speed chart and the old ladies will plant like a clock. :>)

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

04-17-2005 07:06:32




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-17-2005 05:46:05  
Allan: I never had a monitor, just the whistles and practiced same as you. When I swung back in to drop planter always looked for those couple of seeds for each row. Mine was 4 row and I had side lights on 656 for seeing the seeds at night. In all the years I used that planter I only ever had two part rows missed. I also agree speed was very crucial, but I notice a Deere guy thinks he can go like H@$$, his plant population is always a mess.

I suspect that checking for seeds at row ends may not be such a picnic with these 12 and 16 row planters they are using today. Especially for the guys doing 20" rows. You never know, I used to do the same with 24 run drill, and that worked. At least with the 20" rows they would be closer to you.

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JMS/MN

04-16-2005 19:00:53




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-16-2005 15:30:16  
I know squat about the Cyclo, but I understand that they let the air out, like you say, so the seed can drop. Not good to blow the seed into the trench. Too much bounce?



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Allan in NE

04-16-2005 19:03:48




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to JMS/MN, 04-16-2005 19:00:53  
That's kinda what I figured. The old ones were just a section of tube with a bunch of holes in it.

This must be a new curve since my time. :>)

Thanks,

Allan



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JMS/MN

04-16-2005 19:21:08




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-16-2005 19:03:48  
I'll bet that's why we 7000 guys always said the neighbor's Cyclo blew the seed into the ground. I bought a 400 6rw years ago to use as a base for a 15 inch row bean planter, but that's another project that is still in the concept phase, and I don't need it anymore.



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agrogers

04-16-2005 15:47:21




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-16-2005 15:30:16  
What happens when you take those things off?

Allan, are those cyclo planters no-till? I can't imagine that the 3pt you have is, but were the drawn ones no-till?

agrogers



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Allan in NE

04-16-2005 15:54:47




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 Re: What Are These Things? in reply to agrogers, 04-16-2005 15:47:21  
Hi,

No this one isn't no-til, but you could get them either way.

Nowadays, that is about all the guys use; can't blame 'em with these fuel costs.

Allan



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