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Building a bob wire fence...

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MrGadget

11-27-1999 09:59:31




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I initially posted this on the Tales board as a response to Kim's request for info on "how-to..." Thought there might be few here that would be interested, maybe even wanting to kibitz my methods...

Being the son of a Nebraska cattle feeder, if there is anything I DO know about, it's puttin' in a fence that's hog tight, horse high, and bull tough.

Definitely go with the 6 or 8 in ch corner posts. Do put in a 2nd corner brace post 6' in from the corner. Don't bother with the angle post between the braces, make an "H", a 4' round will do, but as mentioned, notch the corner post and the brace post where you want to put the cross brace in. Toenail it into place with three 16p nails. The corner posts and brace posts should be at least 8-9 footers, 3' in the ground and 5'-6' above. Locate your cross brace about 2/3 up from ground.

Use #9 wire as a tensioner. Make a large loose loop with a double eye splice (a lineman's splice won't cut it, and it's too hard ta make a good one in stiff #9 wire anyway) that fits from the top of the brace post to the bottom of the corner post, staple three places on each end, with the splice at one end or the other leaving clean, unbroken strands to twist. Insert yer fence pincers handle 'tween the wires midway and start twisting till tawt (Careful, you can overtwist and break the wire).

This cross brace, tension wire, obviates the need for a deadman. The twisted wire pulls the brace post top towards the corner (opposite direction form the pull of the fence wire itself) and the cross brace (the horizontal part of the "H") pushes back against the corner post, thus keeping it in tension against the stretch of the fence.

For a really GOOD fence, you can easily place yer wooden posts 2 rods apart, with 2 T-posts between. (The T-posts allows lightening to always find a way to gound before it finds yer livestock!) That also puts all yer posts about 11 feet apart. Use a "Walking A", 5-1/2' between the pins. 3 swinging "A" steps to the rod. 2 swings between fence posts.

You can run a 3 wire barb wire fence with the middle wire insulated and hot for lazy old cows, but for calves, yearling steers, or horses, you need a four or five wire fence. Horses, best insulate and fire up the top wire, they'll neck over it, and walk it right down. Cows on the hand stick their heads between the wires and push through.

Stretch yer fence wires with a come-a-long, a "golden rod" (looks and works on the reverse of an auto jack, with a hook on one end, and a wire clamp and t'other), or a good old block and tackle fence stretcher. Use yer tractor as an anchor, NOT a puller, you'll pop a wire, and end up wearin' it!

Stretch one wire tawt and straight, and use it as a guide to measure and line up your post holes. Set your post with about a third of the post in the ground. Tack you yer first wire.

Layout, stretch, and tack each wire, one at a time, bottom to top. Don't get over zealous and strecth one tighter than t'other, you'll get sags in the lower wires. Wheeler's or TSC has tensioners you can put on each wire of a barb wires fence that can be individually adjusted as necessary, never used 'em, 'cuz I couldn't afford 'em, and Dad would probably laugh and tell me he taught me how to build a fence without a "cheater"!

Have fun..Don't get hurt. And by all means, WEAR TOUGHT LEATHER GLOVES! And don't even bother tryin' ta keep 'em pretty and clean, 'cuz, they're gonna be shreaded ta ribbons when yer done anyway!

Now...Anybody wanna talk fence buildin'?

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SANDY E...

08-22-2006 10:45:14




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
PLEASE HELP. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN PURCHASE THE 5" 6 1/2 FT. ROUND PRESSURE TREATED POST.
I LIVE IN DAVIE, FL.
THANKS, SANDY



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evil_dork_14

05-02-2005 11:23:49




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
Thank you for the advice. Thanks mojorly!!! Me and a friend have this project due in a week and we"re trying to see how we can build a bob wire fence that won"t hurt the horses more than they already are! So if you have any information at all it will be most helpfull! Thank you!

-Jones



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Darlene Totty

03-20-2005 20:54:20




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
Thank you for a great refresher on what to do when. You sound like my dad... Both he and my mom passed away and I bought the house I grew up in. I live on the last 5 acres of the family farm that has been in my family for 150 years. Being the baby...and I use that term loosely...I'm 46... I intend to build a barbed wire fence like Daddy did. How tight do you streach it?? I can dig the holes and tamp the poles in but the streaching part I'm not so sure about. I have several old light poles the electric company replaced to use for fence posts. I figure the fence will be there when I'm dead and gone.
Thanks for a great article.

Darlene

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dw

12-01-1999 06:16:13




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
Followed all that,'cept how to piss wife off. Got and suggestions?



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wu

03-26-2001 09:44:18




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to dw, 12-01-1999 06:16:13  
Mr. Gadget had a nice info about the bob wire. Wish there were some pictures along with it, cause I had some difficulty following the directions.

Anyway, I need someone to help building fence that is good enough to keep both goats and donkeys. I am in Austin, Texas. Where can I find someone to do this without costing me a fortune? I need about 5,000 feet of fencing done.

Wu, (512)927-2445



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Obviously a Newlywed

12-04-1999 07:49:15




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to dw, 12-01-1999 06:16:13  
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Pete in Ks.

11-30-1999 06:37:00




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
MrGadget, Looks good except for depth of corner. We use 9' corners set 5' deep with 8' brace post set 4' deep. Dia. of post is determined by length of pull. The longer the pull the bigger the post. There are hedge corners in my area 14" in Dia. I personally think 10" dia. is big enough. In this area everyone uses 5 barbed wires set approx. 8" apart. We start with top wire first and work down this keeps each remaining wire from tangling in the previous one. Tension is set where ever you feel comfortable. With the corner set at this depth there is no give and no worry of wires going slack. My two cents!

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MrG:Gotta agree...

11-30-1999 11:15:30




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to Pete in Ks., 11-30-1999 06:37:00  
Bigger and deeper is better when it comes to corner post. I did mention that I don't recommend stretching any more than 80 rods at a time.

P.S. You wouldn't by any chance be a K-State fan? ;-)



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Just one question....

11-27-1999 22:55:49




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
What is a "bob wire fence". Is it a smaller verision of a "Robert wire fence" ? :0]



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MrG: Bob's the guy

11-28-1999 10:58:21




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to Just one question...., 11-27-1999 22:55:49  
ya hire ta unroll the wire, that way ya don't tear up yer own gloves (and hands)!



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aneda phillips

07-09-2000 10:20:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrG: Bob's the guy, 11-28-1999 10:58:21  
Hi! I am looking for a ez roller. I have only seen 1 once and can not find one. It unrolls the bobwire as it rolls up the old. Have you ever heard of one and could you tell me were I can purchace one. I would realy appricate any information on something like it. you can email me at cfence@netzero.net



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MrG: Bob's the guy

11-28-1999 10:56:20




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to Just one question...., 11-27-1999 22:55:49  
ya hire ta unroll the wire, that way ya don't tear up yer own gloves (and hands)!



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McC

11-27-1999 21:43:44




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
That makes a good fence. We started using high tensile smooth steel wire instead of barb wire a few years ago. It's cheaper and a lot easier to use. It won't stretch and is real hard to break. It stands up to the deer and elk a lot better, too. Works for us anyway. Thanks.



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pete-Tex

11-29-1999 22:16:29




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to McC, 11-27-1999 21:43:44  
I use both the HT (electrifryed) and the Robert's fence. HT works great for paddock fencing, fencing off grain fields, etc. But for perimiter and major cross fencing you gotta have bob's kind. A new excited animal will run over or thru the HT fences and won't stop till he/she gets to the bob wire, there they can stop, blow a while and figure out what was bitin them as they ran thru the others. Must admit though nuttin stops that amorous bull like a jolt in the nose with about 6 joules...

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McC

11-27-1999 21:41:43




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
That makes a good fence. We started using high tensile smooth steel wire instead of barb wire a few years ago. It's cheaper and a lot easier to use. It won't stretch and is real hard to break. It stands up to the deer and elk a lot better, too. Works for us anyway. Thanks.



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Fm

11-27-1999 19:41:11




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 Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to MrGadget, 11-27-1999 09:59:31  
got any advice for building a pheasent pen? how about stone fences?



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stone fence

11-28-1999 11:42:42




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to Fm, 11-27-1999 19:41:11  
Directions on how to build a stone fence,have large stone brought to farm,piss off wife so she throws stones at you slowly move in a even line you might want to pull a string with stakes as a guide,then have smaller stones brought to farm tell kids to finish up your half,then go see neighbor tell him law from 1800s make him responsible for half of fence and you would like it down by next week.



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stone fence

11-28-1999 11:40:41




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 Re: Re: Building a bob wire fence... in reply to Fm, 11-27-1999 19:41:11  
Directions on how to build a stone fence,have large stone brought to farm,piss off wife so she throws stones at you slowly move in a even line you might want to pull a string with stakes as a guide,then have smaller stones brought to farm tell kids to finish up your half,then go see neighbor tell him law from 1800s make him responsible for half of fence and you would like it down by next week.



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