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Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks

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Allan in NE

06-29-2005 08:13:13




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Mornin' Guys,

Went back into the local implement dealer this morning and looked that NH 849 baler over real good.

Evidently, at one time the main chain had broken and tore up some sheet metal and ripped loose one arm of the compression sissor. Someone had done a real good repair on the sheet metal, the arm had been welded, then reinforced and like I say, a new chain installed.

I just think I can make the old sister bale hay, but still, I sure felt a little "uneasy" 'bout buying a New Holland baler and four spools of 16K twine for $552 when all the big boys are lining up at the check out window to buy those new outfits like there is no tomorrow. :>)

Allan

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shannon from ohio

06-29-2005 16:13:26




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
I always said (One man's rejects or junk is another man's treasures) You oughta be arrested for stealing LOL..... ...



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Rustyj14

06-29-2005 15:45:30




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Allan: there's nothing wrong with buying used stuff! I haven't bought anything new since our 1976 Ford pickup! Why buy, when the yuppies supply!? If the older stuff still works, why not use it! After all, a whole lot of farmers and others found that older stuff worked good enough, without all of that fancy stuff! you're going to use what you bale, so why worry what shape it takes to get it into the barn, or whatever!

I go around every nite, checking the throw away piles set out for the garbage man to take next morning! Wonderful stuff--lawn furniture tossed because it is dirty! Never heard of water and elbow grease and soap/cleaner? Aluminum step ladders and extension ladders thrown away because of paint spilled on it! Propane grills pitched because of grease build-up! Folding alum. chairs with one strip broken--woo-haw--pitch it--buy the new ones, with the plastic strips, which, after a half hour of sitting, have yer butt on the ground! My motor home is a '79, my truck is a '91, car a '95, motorcycle an '82, home built in 1940! Do i worry about what people think---naw, it doesn't bother me--everything works is all that counts! Rustyj

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KEH

06-29-2005 14:51:52




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Allan, When you mention "new chain" do you mean the drive chain on the side or the two chains that make the bale of hay? If the big chains are new or even in good condition you got a steal. Is all the equipment in the picture NH? The round baler behind the 849 looks like it might IH, but its hard totell from 2000 miles away! I'm with you on the square bales.

KEH



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Allan in NE

06-29-2005 15:08:22




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to KEH, 06-29-2005 14:51:52  
KEH,

Yes, the big chains that bolt to the cross bars on the main chain. Both sides are brand spankin' new, as well as all the bolts and lock nuts to all the bars. I don't know what they sell for, but I'd guess they'd have to be upwards of $900, wouldn't they?

The fella who sold it to me says that the guy just traded it for a new baler and that it is what he has been using up until now.

Dunno anything else about it, 'cept for what you guys have shared with me here. Like I say, my only experience with round balers was that NH 851 and I thought that thing could probably walk on water if ya asked it to.

Things are just plain high anymore. Yesterday, I bought two 14' hydraulic hoses for the swather. $90 for the two; ouch!

Allan

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KEH

06-29-2005 15:56:02




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 15:08:22  
Allan, OK, you stole it! I paid over $900 for those chains for my 847 maybe 10 years ago. Suggest you listen to it run when possible and listen for bad bearings, but I never had bad bearings with the 847. Also walk around it ald listen to it with a bale in it, might sound different with pressure on it. There was a steep improvement curve for round balers in the 1980s. If you have trouble pushing your fingers into the ends of the bale, you have a good tight bale. The repairs sound good.

KEH

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Galen

06-29-2005 14:39:37




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
YOU AIN'T DRUG THAT THING HOME YET?????
Get with it, man! Rains coming (sooer-or-later)! 8^)



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caseyc

06-29-2005 14:37:52




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
you are dumber than a box of rocks....you stole that baler and now your gonna get arrested! LOL

darn good buy there my friend. if you can even find one around here they fetch 2-3k. 851's are plentiful for 1-2k and 855's can be had for 2-3k also. the only ones under a grand are the 850's.

casey



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Allan in NE

06-29-2005 14:43:43




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to caseyc, 06-29-2005 14:37:52  
Hmmmm, Dunno.

We haven't seen the little sweetheart bale anything yet. Gonna hold off pattin' myself on the back til that happens. :>)

Although, if it turns out as good as this swather did, I'm gonna be one happy camper!

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

06-29-2005 10:45:55




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Allan, A man of your obvious means SHOULD be in that line with the rest of us, but since you seem to have your mind made up to buy used and cheap....

The way i see it, you could get MOST of your money back in a day or two by selling off parts if it doesn't work out.

The only down-side is, you know the drill, you get 40 acres of hay on the ground, a storm is brewin', and the old one lays down on the job....

That said, I'll send you the phone # of my favorite Vermeer dealer when I hit the house later today.

It's only money.....

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ChrisLSD

06-29-2005 09:12:57




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Always remember - there may be no tomorrow



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Hound

06-29-2005 09:10:53




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
...hope that new place has a good sized machinery shed... cause your fleet is growing quickly, but more importantly....cheaply. I'm surprised and awed at the price that you getting this stuff for. That baler and haybine would be 5 times that around here. Only thiing is that they wouldn't happen to have seen as much work as those girls....whats goona eat all this hay? or is there a good market to sell it there? Surely ol'deep pockets Allen needs some cash flow sooner or later..... :) Hound

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Allan in NE

06-29-2005 09:30:11




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Hound, 06-29-2005 09:10:53  
Hey!

Whadda mean "Ol deep pockets Allan"? That is a totally unfounded fabrication! :>(

Watch closely. I've been buying other people's discarded junk. :>)

Allan



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Hound

06-29-2005 10:07:32




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 09:30:11  
...."other people's discarded junk" don't like that term.. what does that make my stuff? .... "other people's discarded junk" thats what I call new.

Glad to see that your back in the saddle.... let me know when your loading up the truck with a couple of dozen eggs and tomatoes, and doing a drive by of your old banker. count me in, we'll take the gleam out of his eye, thats been there for so many years:)Hound

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Brian in NY

06-29-2005 09:03:29




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Allan,
I wouldn't be too worried about the baler, you are getting it right, and it looks pretty good. As long as the compression arm looks solid, you should be able to get a few years use out of the old girl. I have used (but not maintained) an identical baler and have found it to make a nice heavy bale, if a bit narrow. To my knowledge the thing never had any problems, until it burned in a barn fire...it set next to the silo and they didn't make it a priority to rescue.

Now one other question...ain't ya gonna need a square baler for horse feedin? Looks like yer pal at the implement dealer has a good lookin NH sittin there. Then a few hay wagons....and oh yeah don't you need a rake too?

Ah, the fun has just begun.

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Allan in NE

06-29-2005 09:20:27




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Brian in NY, 06-29-2005 09:03:29  
Hi Brian,

That would be a definite “no”.

All I have to put up this season is something like 10 acres of grass hay, as the prior owners get the crop off the rest of the place for this year.

So, I’m gonna go out there tonight, knock ‘er down, bale it up round and sell it in the little local “shopper” as ‘horse hay’.

Small square bales and I just don’t go together. I’d plow ‘er up and plant wheat first before I’d ever mess around with that routine. :>)

Allan

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thurlow

06-29-2005 08:45:57




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Hey Allan, most assuredly it'll bale, but whatcha' gonna do with the hay? Had and used an 851 (and 2 different Vermeers) for many years. Because of the design of the floor chain, could never get the twine (on the bale) to suit me; i.e., no matter how much twine was put on there, it was 8 -10 inches apart; didn't shed water near'bout as good as the belt balers, IF STORED OUTSIDE.



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FC

06-29-2005 08:22:18




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 Re: Felt Dumbern' a Bucket of Rocks in reply to Allan in NE, 06-29-2005 08:13:13  
Yea, but you will feel better about it when that thing is rolling out bales just as good as the "me too" guys who are lined up to buy those high dollar rigs. Heck, if it bales a year or two and you then scrap it you have gotten your moneys worth out of it. Heck, for that price buy one for a spare or parts machine. I been eyeing those ones Old refers to for $750, but just ain't got the extra cash right now. Thought I had an old 850 bought from a guy at work, but he never would price it out to me. I have since backed off of that one as he said it needed a floor chain, and that would set me back almost as much as what you are putting in that old girl. Good luck with it. I think you made a good buy.

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