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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 07:46:31




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Hi Guys,

Here's a sequence of the plow spinning over. With the outfit in the field working and up to speed, the whole process takes about 2 or 3 seconds to come around if a guy has the hydraulic restrictors in the lines.

Without the restrictors, it takes just about a half a second, but boy! Is it ever rough on the machinery, 'cause that thing just BANGS when it hits the stops and the whole outfit shakes.

Allan

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TP from Central PA

07-09-2005 19:26:17




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Dang, I couldn"t imagine all that weight hanging out their like that..... ...Don"t see nothing like that around here.



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Allan in NE

07-10-2005 06:18:11




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to TP from Central PA, 07-09-2005 19:26:17  
Hi TP,

They look heiver than they really are.

The plows are not nearly as heavy as the cultivators. This little 6 row out weighs the plow and the the 8 row units that the big boys use now are heiver yet.

Allan

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txgrn

07-07-2005 13:36:55




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
I didn't think that camera was too far behind you....probably on a lanyard around your neck. Probably hang it there B4 you put your skivvies on in the am. Har Har.

Do like the pics however. Getting to see what rural NB looks like without having to go the expense of the drive.

Mark



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Roger in Iowa

07-07-2005 10:57:02




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Believe these are called roll-over plows. Used primarily in irrigated areas where irrigation is by flooding. The use of this type of plow does not leave a dead furrow (where dirt is thrown apart by two passes of a normal plow going in opposite directions). Nor does it leave a ridge where dirt is thrown together by two passes of the plow going in opposite directions. The field remains level, except at the very edge.

You've got about the largest possible. Might have been a five bottom but don't know. Have to have room to turn over. Deere made a similar concept plow, but the bottoms were bi-directional and the frame skewed or pivoted. Strange looking bottoms. Built within the last 15 to 20 years or so. Did not roll over.

Roger in Iowa

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jddriver

07-07-2005 14:41:10




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2005 10:57:02  
We have a JD 6-18 bottom roll over plow.Steve



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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 12:37:04




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2005 10:57:02  
Roger,

Aw hem! This IS the "normal" type plow. :>)

Naw, all manufacturers' made 'em and the 6 and 7 20" bottoms are rampant out here. Only differece is that most of 'em are now on land plows instead of walking in the furrow. This puts the pull-point over further between different bottoms, thereby giving the clearance for them to spin.

There is a difference between the "rollovers" and spinners too. Rollovers do just that. They physically 'rollover' from the forward movement of the plow and don't use any hydraulics.

Don't see that type much anymore.

Allan

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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 12:34:04




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2005 10:57:02  
Roger,

Aw hem! This IS the "normal" type plow. :>)

Naw, all manufacturers' made 'em and the 6 and 7 20" bottoms are rampant out here. Only differece is that most of 'em are now on land plows instead of walking in the furrow. This puts the pull-point over further between different bottoms, thereby giving the clearance for them to spin.

There is a difference between the "rollovers" and spinners too. Rollovers do just that. They physically 'rollover' from the forward movement of the plow and don't use any hydraulics.

Don't see that type much anymore.

Allan

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Roy in UK

07-07-2005 11:49:21




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-07-2005 10:57:02  
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Largest possible? the one above is semi mount admitted but I have actually seen a 7 bottom fully mounted. Case have just beaten their own 24 hour plowing record with a Quadtrac pulling a 20 bottom reversible plow (trailed of course!)



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Jay (ND)

07-07-2005 10:00:01




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Until you showed me this weeks ago, I've never seen one. Now I understand (I think) how they work. So, up here, the guys that plow (rare nowadays) go round and round and leave an X pattern of unplowed ground going from the corners towards the middle. With this outfit you can go back and forth? And still get the furrow to lay the front tire in? Does it turn when you lift it out of the ground, or is there another lever used after you get it out?

Sorry for the dumb questions, just curious :)

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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 10:13:33




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Jay (ND), 07-07-2005 10:00:01  
Hi Bud!

I thought we agreed that I had the market covered on the dumb questions so yer out! :>)

It is actually two plows in one and operates just like any other plow. Only difference being that one set is "reversed" so that you always can throw the soil the same direction regardless of the direction of travel. This eliminates the multiple dead furrows and that "X" pattern you're talking about.

Works just like a hydro-swing swather; you start on one side of the field and just work across the field towards the other side.

You guys still puttin' up hay up there?

Allan

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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 10:28:41




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 10:13:33  
Also,

You lift the three-point and then immediately throw the auxiliary lever.

Since the three point has priority over the remotes, it will start the spin just as soon as the lift is complete.

The trick is to give it just a second to clear the ground before you tromp on that brake to make the on land turn.

Allan



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Jay (ND)

07-07-2005 10:35:56




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 10:28:41  
Told you I had the market cornered on dumb today. Things that should have occured to me were you were talking about changing the hitch, and in your pictures there isn't a single piece touching the ground! Add these up = 3 point !

I think I'm just so used to thinking of our drawbar pulled plows up here that I plead stupidity due to ignorance.

And what the heck is a hydro-swing swather? LOL

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Lou

07-07-2005 08:15:19




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Allen I for one can feel your pain when some on this sight poke fun at that beautiful piece of machinery,It is totaly uncalled for. However I did become dizzy looking at that plow spin, sugest you look straight ahead when spinning. Lou



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Lou

07-07-2005 08:11:04




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Allen I for one can feel your pain when some on this sight poke fun at that beautiful piece of machinery,It is totaly uncalled for. However I did become dizzy looking at that plow spin, sugest you look straight ahead when spinning. Lou



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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 08:23:45




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Lou, 07-07-2005 08:11:04  
Yes Sir,

You don't even look back when it's spinning because you are so darned busy whippin' that tractor around and droppin' it back in the furrow for the return run.

I do a figure 8, stompin' on the brake comin' out to the land side, start the plow spin and then crank the tractor hard the other way while braking to get 'er back around and in the hole. Just do not have time enough to look back and watch the plow come around.

No use to watch it anyway, because it's gonna do it and you can hear the gauge wheel drop and you can feel the plow hit the stops when the spin is done. The tractor kinda does a little "sideways shake" while all this is going on too, because of the weight of the derned thing. :>)

Allan

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Lou

07-07-2005 08:57:47




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 08:23:45  
Now your making me envious, wish I could afford one. good plowin Lou



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Delbert from Lincoln

07-07-2005 08:05:08




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Allan, Thats impressive. I"ve seen those plows but never got the chance to watch one them spin. Thank you for posting the pictures. I have been enjoying them. Theres a few of those plows in SE Nebraska, but most plowing has been abandoned. Some guys use a plow and plow up the back side of their terraces. These work great for that as you don"t have to drive back empty to where you started. Keep posting pictures, and I"ll keep enjoying them. Delbert from Lincoln

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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 08:28:43




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 07-07-2005 08:05:08  
Delbert,

It is the least I can do. You guys gave me back my life!! I'm a happy man again. :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 08:25:43




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Delbert from Lincoln, 07-07-2005 08:05:08  
Delbert,

It is the least I can do. You guys gave me back my life!! I'm a happy man again. :>)

Allan



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Rauville

07-07-2005 08:01:05




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 07:46:31  
Well...that's interesting to the uninformed such as myself. I have to assume that you don't do that if you are utilizing the packer hitch?



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Roy in UK

07-07-2005 08:21:09




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Rauville, 07-07-2005 08:01:05  
Oh yeah you can use it as a reversible when pulling a packer. When you get to the end of the bout you raise the plow, the packer becomes un hitched automatically, then you turn the plow over and as go up your next bout it picks the packer up again. Its a joy to see one in action actually.



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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 08:33:35




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Roy in UK, 07-07-2005 08:21:09  
Hi Ya Roy,

I like to watch those big dualed-up, on-land outfits work. It'll just rip your heart out of your chest to see the quality and the lay of the finished soil.

Flat and even as a cardtable.

Allan



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Roy in UK

07-07-2005 11:52:17




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 08:33:35  
Allan, feast your eyes on this



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Farmered

07-08-2005 02:44:34




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Roy in UK, 07-07-2005 11:52:17  
Just a note: ha = hectares. To get acres multiply by approximately 2.4. 321ha is a lot of acres! Ed



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Allan in NE

07-07-2005 08:14:46




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Rauville, 07-07-2005 08:01:05  
Hi Rau,

No, same procedure with the packer too.

The packer is drawn from the plow hitch by a long chain. When the plow comes around, it is just pulled up closer to the plow is all.

Since I use a 14' tandem culti-packer behind another tractor, I'm gonna yank that hitch off the plow. Just wasted weight as far as I'm concerned.

Allan



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Illinois Boy

07-07-2005 09:36:23




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 Re: Spinning Plow in reply to Allan in NE, 07-07-2005 08:14:46  
Allan,
You are far more talented than me - if I chew gum while I'm using an implement, I run off into a ditch or somth'n...



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