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Couple questions about a turning plow

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Gale (NC)

12-16-1999 13:03:16

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I have a couple older Ford tractors (8N/3000), and want to purchase a turning plow that I can use with each tractor, but primarily the 3000. Would be plowing small tracts, mainly garden and the like. Can't think of anything larger than half acre or so. Think I'm pretty much limited to a single bottom variety, although the larger tractor could handle a two-bottom. Then comes the question of size. Must admit that I am ignorant of the benefits of a 16 over a 14. Assume it cuts a wider swath; is that right? Please, may I have some input? Had a little plow once on a Farmall, but was a long time ago. Thanks, Gale

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Thanks to all you guys!

12-25-1999 06:56:49

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Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Gale (NC), 12-16-1999 13:03:16

Appreciate all the input. Thank you all. And Happy Holidays.

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Jamie Packham

12-19-1999 01:28:12

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Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Gale (NC), 12-16-1999 13:03:16

I read the replies to your post and while all true I don't think they really answered your question. For small plots like you mention and small tractors you should get a 2 furrow either 12" or 14". The size difference won't really matter to you much but as other people mentioned the larger width of cut plow doesn't plug as easy. One thing not considered by the other answers is what you intend to work the ground with in the spring. If a disc or other tractor mounted implement you could just get the cheapest plow you find that is in decent shape. On the other hand if you wanted to rototill the garden and plant it would be very important to get a plow that leaves very smooth plowing in it's wake. For the first case an american made plow by any of the major manufacturers would work. For the second case I would recommend a european plow (Kvernlands,fiskars,etc.) However these plows are usually quite expensive so it would depend on your budget. No matter what, your results will depend on your plowing skills. If you have little experience plowing then have a look around your local area for the nicest plowing you can find and ask the guy who did it if he could give you a few pointers.People who take pride in their plowing usually don't mind talking about it and you just might make a new friend. Good luck to you

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paul

12-16-1999 22:01:36

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Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Gale (NC), 12-16-1999 13:03:16

A 16 or 18 inch bottom will allow more junk to pass through without plugging the plow.

'They' say a plow is designed to plow 1/2 as deep as the bottom is wide. So, in theory a 3-14 plow is moving less dirt than a 2-16 and the 3 bottom should pull easier than the 2 bottom. The 3 bottom is taking a wider, shallower cut.

That theory hasn't met my heavy clay soils, where both pull pretty hard... :)

--->Paul

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Burrhead

12-17-1999 20:30:05

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Re: Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to paul, 12-16-1999 22:01:36

I found an old Ford Dearborne double disc plow, it does alot better in my clay ground than a bottom flat plow did, and it pulls alot easier.
Your right this clay does'nt really fall into the plow theories.

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12-16-1999 16:33:47

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Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Gale (NC), 12-16-1999 13:03:16

Gale: When one is using a multi bottom plow such as 4-14's etc, the larger botton normally has greater clearance for the loose trash to go thru and not plugging up the plow.. I often felt that the smaller bottoms gave less large clumps.. The condition of the plow may make more differance than the size for small plots.. good luck..hr

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Gerald J.

12-16-1999 14:01:36

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Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Gale (NC), 12-16-1999 13:03:16

The 8N I used to have came with 2-12s. It didn't have the weight to pull them well and getting them in and out of the ground evenly in a garden was impossible.

16 cuts wider than 14 and pulls harder. with a single bottom plow you can probably adjust the width of the cut by the plow positioning behind the tractor (relative to the furrow wheel).

Gerald J.

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Dick L

12-17-1999 13:23:58

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Re: Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Gerald J., 12-16-1999 14:01:36

You try to cut more than 14" with a single bottom 14" plow, when your done it will look like the hogs rooted it. If the single bottom plow is adjusted correctly you won't be able to tell if it was plowed with a single bottom plow or a five bottom plow.

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Gerald J.

12-17-1999 16:42:57

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Re: Re: Re: Couple questions about a turning plow in reply to Dick L, 12-17-1999 13:23:58

Worse yet, if it was alfalfa the uncut strips will come up in the corn and sometimes prevent the corn from sprouting. But you can safely cut narrower than 14.

I've noticed that my semi mounted AC 2000 series has a lot more room between plow bottoms than my Case 2-16 three point. So the AC rolls over corn stalks without needing them chopped and disked, while even after chopping and disking the Case can plug. The 500 and 600 series IH semi mounted plows have even better clearance with the main plow beam a couple feet above the top of the well separated plow bottoms and a thin stem to catch very little trash.

Gerald J.

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