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Baler for a Farmall H

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Dave D

12-22-1999 09:32:38

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I have been following the evergrowing baler threads - lots of good info. It seems hands down the JD and NH balers (Square) are by far the best. My problem is that my Farmall H does not have (I believe) enought power to run a modern baler. I'am too cheep to buy a newer tractor - the H runs like a top - and I only need to bale around 1000 bales a couple time a year. Any advice?

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HARRYHARDWAY

12-28-1999 15:09:49

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

I have a IH 45T whch was built in the era you mentioned. Well matched for the H. Have often run it with a JD B. Can be a rough job with the B but a 44A runs it great and much smoother. Ran it with JD70D. PLENTY of hp. Didn't bale any better. Doesn't like to run over 450 PTO rpm. Paid $25 bucks at an auction for it. Put $150 in it. works well. Kinda picky about the twine knives.

Also have a JD24T. ABSOLUTELY smokes the IH baler! Faster, LOTS SMOOTHER, less HP. more reliable, better bale shapes (fewer silo bales) is 'bout half as long as the IH and is more maneuverable. IF the 14 T is much like his newer cousin, good machine!

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Fred Martin

12-28-1999 10:23:37

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

Hi Dave from Fred
Seems like your subject is pretty well covered with answers that look pretty good in your favor and I can't add to it, just learn from it. But I want to make a comment about baling. I took a trip from Ohio out through Wyoming and Montana in the summer of 98 and I noticed that they baled right along the interstate and even on the median. Seemed kinda strange to a "Buckeye". Once in a while you could see a prong horn grazing in it. Must have been pretty good stuff or they had a real shortage of hay. Different! Fred from the Mung Factory

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12-22-1999 17:00:36

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

Last season I hayed 10 acres with an 8N and a NH271. Not sure how the hp compares to the H but the 8N handled things just fine. Without the live PTO I had to learn to quickly get her out of gear and let the clutch back out if I got a big slug of hay in the baler. Like the others said, keep the knives sharp and give her hell. It may be cheaper to hire it out but there's nothing like the satisfaction of doing it yourself. Plus, you can do it on your schedule, when the weather and hay are both at their best. As a note, I bought my NH271 and an old JD ground driven rake for $400. I put about $200 more into them and they both work fine.

Have fun.

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paul

12-22-1999 18:23:51

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Re: Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to DD, 12-22-1999 17:00:36

Yup, we put the 270 NH on our H once when all the other tractors were down & out. It works, but I sure hate not having the live pto.

But, anyhow, DD has pretty good advise.

Lots of us have been kinda negative on haying a couple acres per year. I guess myself, I've seen a lot of people who want to come in & bale 5 acres of hay, and bale hay off of another 20 acres in the neighborhood & try to make $10,000 per year off of this.

Well, that doesn't work. :)

But if you want a hobby & some exersize, there are worse things to do then spend $3000 on hay equipment & do it yourself. Even if it is just 1000 bales a year. What the heck. :)

Just as long as folks realize this will _not_ get them rich, and probably will even cost a little in the long run.

I would look for a NH baler made in the 60's or 70's, hook it up to the H, and have some fun. I hear JD of that era is pretty good too. You will need shed room, balers do _not_ store well outdoors.

--->Paul

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Fudd

12-22-1999 15:58:17

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

I think as long as you stick with a smaller square baler you should be ok, not get a high capacity. When I was a youngster we lived in NE Iowa with rolling small hills and we pulled a NH Super 66 with an AC WC and pulled a hayrack. It's good to hear the other guys recommend a JD 14T because that's what I have.:) Your H should work just fine on something like that!

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Ernie

12-22-1999 14:42:51

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

You didn't say if the ground was level or hilly. Level ground will be just fine for a 14T, full load of hay behind the baler on a hill...exciting.

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B.C.

12-22-1999 14:02:11

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

The best that the JD 14T we used to have ever worked was behind an H that wasn't even 100%. When I was a kid our one neighbor used an H with a NH 68 with no problems.

He did eventually go to an Oliver 66 but aside from that thing having a live PTO it wasn't any noticeable improvement.

Sharp knife, fresh twine, tight knotters and cool head. Have at 'er.

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Theman

12-22-1999 10:04:14

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

I baled the last two seasons with an H pulling a New Holland 315 Hayliner baler and did just fine. The H had enough power to spin the slip clutch if too much hay was fed into the machine. If your tractor is worn out, consider re-sleeving with the 3-7/16" pistons and a valve re-grind on the head. Two musts: One, keep the plunger knives sharp. This eats up your horsepower if they are nicked or dull. Two, properly rake the hay. So far, no one has addressed this critical point. Anyone can pull a hay rake, but few can make a real windrow.

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Paul Fox

12-22-1999 15:18:42

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Re: Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Theman, 12-22-1999 10:04:14

Stan, I for one would sure like to hear more about that. Never occurred to me that there was much to it, other than not making it too big. Seems like an idea for a new thread!

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Fudd-Me Too

12-22-1999 16:02:28

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Re: Re: Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Paul Fox, 12-22-1999 15:18:42

I would like to see a thread about raking. Different views are always good.

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paul

12-22-1999 18:31:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Fudd-Me Too, 12-22-1999 16:02:28

Me too. My 6 acre alfalfa field (I bale road ditch, ditch bank, field roads, & this small alfalfa field to feed my 40 cattle) is on a field with almost pure sand on one end, and almost drowned out gumbo on the other end, with 2 clay hills & 2 wet spots in the middle. Haven't had even growth on that in 5 years, hard to make an even windrow! :) Beats trying to grow corn on it tho.

--->Paul

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Fudd

12-22-1999 18:49:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to paul, 12-22-1999 18:31:31

I make hay in mountian meadows and it's the same way, thick in spots and thin in others. I use an old 14T that I think was made in the late 50's so my bales are sometimes u shaped. I don't charge a lot so my customers don't complain.

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MrG

12-22-1999 10:02:26

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Re: Baler for a Farmall H in reply to Dave D, 12-22-1999 09:32:38

The neighbor I sold my IH baler to pulls it with an H. He has a reasonable slope to his hayfield but does not pull a hay rack (wish he would, I hate having to pick it up off the ground!). The only drawback to the H is the lack of live PTO, but he seems to handle that by getting the baler running before he actually attacks a windrow.

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