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raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up

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44 farmall

08-17-2005 10:50:42




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I have a 7 ft. IH sickle bar mower, possibly a 25 or 27. Rear mounted. The frame is triangular with the bar and front and the wheel on back - 12" wheel.

I get tired of keeping it level on concrete blocks when I unhook it from the tractor. Then if the blocks don"t hold, the implement falls and I have to jack it up again. I thought about doing the following:

Going to a boat dealership and buying 2 trailer jacks with wheels, attach them to each side of the frame and every time I need to raise or lower, just crank the handle. When going down the road, raise the jack and fasten it. I believe these jacks use "u bolts" which fasten to the frame.

Question is: What size jack would work best -24" 27"... and what size should I use to accomodate the weight 2 1,000 pound jacks or 2 800 pound jacks? Thanks

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Pete in PA

08-18-2005 16:18:46




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to 44 farmall, 08-17-2005 10:50:42  
Hi,

I built a stand for mine out of pressure treated wood that just supports the mower under the side bars at the right height so that I can basically back the tractor up and rebolt it again. I let the mower bar down onto a longer pressure treated deck board, then spray the heck out of it with WD40 to avoid rust. Works well, although time consuming...
Pete in PA



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John S-B

08-18-2005 15:39:50




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to 44 farmall, 08-17-2005 10:50:42  
I just got a 25v, and I'm not sure it's all there. put all new knives and rock guards but I need to know what keeps the head of the cutter bar up off of the ground while the bar is raised and you are transporting it. I had to modify the mounting as I have a 3pt. hitch and I can't fit the drawbar on it so it is mounted to the drawbar on the 3pt. I put a longer pto on it and it cuts good but I have to chain the pivot point to the frame and raise the 3pt. almost all of the way up to transport it. I know this can't be the way it works, any suggestions?

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Leroy

08-19-2005 05:51:16




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to John S-B, 08-18-2005 15:39:50  
First you have to have that 3 point in a fixed non changing position for it to work. I have what I think is a 27 that I bought for parts for a horse drawn mower that I have here. The hitch bountings were missing when I got it and someone threw the holes in the front of the frame where the hitch had mounted they had put in a set of 3 point hitch pins, looked like that worked OK execpt they forgot to keep the pins tight. Then you need good stay straps to hold the mower at the corect height (With the 3 point hitch locked out;shut off) because when ever you are raising the front like you are doing you are changing the tilt of the bar so that will cause problems, and you have to have it ancerd with sway bars so it cannot have any sideways movement, then use the hand lift lever or hydrolic cylinder to lift bar and if you get that knife head fixed you will not have any problem with the knife dropping down. Would take me days to find my owners manuals and my mower is setting out in the weeds so it would be hard for me to get to too see exactly how that knife head is made, mine had lever lift converted to cylinder but all those knife-cutter bar parts fit the horse drawn mowers from about 1890 up

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Leroy

08-18-2005 19:38:38




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to John S-B, 08-18-2005 15:39:50  
On the head clamps on the pitman there will be a pin sticking out about an inch that rests against a piece that is part of the inner hold down, that pin might be broken off or things turned upsidedown, few years ago a neighbor about 8 mile away had that same problem (Belonged to same tractor club) I whent to look at it for him and the pitman was turned upsidedown.



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Bob

08-18-2005 08:24:36




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to 44 farmall, 08-17-2005 10:50:42  
Set a couple of posts in the ground, with a crossbar across the top.

Hang the mower from a couple of come-alongs. That's what we used to do with a Deere #5, and it worked well.



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Leroy

08-17-2005 13:32:56




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to 44 farmall, 08-17-2005 10:50:42  
That mower should be in the about 600# size and very possible came with the mounting stands when new so you should be able to use a light weigh of that type of jack, just have to find a place to mount that you can swing the jack up to in its travel position that does NOT interfeer with operation of mower but far enough out the cutter bar does not tip the mower over and you should lower the bar to the ground before unhooking to keep from tipping over and you getting hurt

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Dave H (MI)

08-17-2005 12:45:49




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to 44 farmall, 08-17-2005 10:50:42  
Heavens, am I thinking of the wrong type of mower here? Sounds like the IH version of the JD #5 mower from the description but then you start talking about 1000 and 2800 pound jacks. If it is a triangular frame semi-mounted mower I would bet it weighs about 600 pounds....or about the same as the #5. I just use a bottle jack to let her down on some 6X6 scrap and then when I want it back on the tractor I jack it up again. I have often thought about implement jacks but it really seemed like a lot of expense. Let me know if you do it and how it works out.

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Illinois Boy

08-17-2005 12:58:04




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 Re: raising and keeping sickle bar mower frame up in reply to Dave H (MI), 08-17-2005 12:45:49  
I can't imagine a 7' sickle bar mower weighing more than 600lbs. My 7' Ford weighs in at about 430.



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