Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum
:

2-speed Model A Transmission?

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
AlbertoV05

03-01-2003 15:25:00




Report to Moderator

Can someone please explain what a "2-speed" transmission is on a Model A? It was described to me as basically a three-speed tranny with a seperate lever that is engaged to give you three more speeds.
Is this thing rare or pretty common on the old A's?
Thanks in advance

Al in Iowa




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Doc

03-01-2003 19:52:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: 2-speed Model A Transmission? in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-01-2003 15:25:00  
Al,

The "Two Speed" was how steel wheel A's were equipped. I have a 40 that has a "two speed", meaning it has two forward gears, with the hi-lo lever, giving four forward speeds. Rubber tired tractors had three forward, with hi-lo, giving six total. My 40 must have been a steel wheel model when sold, but was converted to pressed steel later. Deere probably didn't want anyone going too fast on steel, it was quite a ride!

My two cents, somebody jump in and correct me if I'm in error!

Docster

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JD70Jim

03-02-2003 14:30:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: 2-speed Model A Transmission? in reply to Doc, 03-01-2003 19:52:26  
When the model A was first designed, there were 10 prototypes, designated model "AA-3" or "AA-4". The number designated whether it had a 3 speed of a 4 speed transmission. The Three speed was not adopted.

The Production tractors were originally equipped with a 4 speed transmission, operated by TWO levers. One lever had reverse, 1-3, and 2-4 on it, with the other lever being your "high-low" selector.

Starting with sn 499,000 all tractors were built with a six speed transmission. For tractors shipped on STEEL WHEELS, the 5th and 6th gears were blocked out. They were "IN" the transmission, but you could not access them. These tractors ALSO had a two lever shifting system---Reverse, 1-3,2-4 and 5-6, plus "high-low".

Beginning with sn 648,000 a single lever, six position shifting quadrant was used. I believe that the very few "A" tractors shipped on steel wheels after sn648,000 were still shipped with 5th and 6th locked out.

My 2440 still uses a two lever shifter---Park, I, II, and R plus 1-5,2-6,3-7, and 4-8 AND it has the hydraulic (like a TA) high low as well, giving 16 forward speeds, and I wouldn't try and refer to it a a 2 or 4 speed tractor either.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
CMB

03-01-2003 21:15:37




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: 2-speed Model A Transmission? in reply to Doc, 03-01-2003 19:52:26  
The 1940 A's were all 4spd. 41s (499,000 up) were the first 6spd A's.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dave K

03-01-2003 16:33:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: 2-speed Model A Transmission? in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-01-2003 15:25:00  
Not rare no. factory standard to be exact. The 50 models or maybe the 49's came out with the actual six speeds on the stick and no hi-lo lever.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Pappy

03-01-2003 15:50:38




Report to Moderator
 Re: 2-speed Model A Transmission? in reply to AlbertoV05, 03-01-2003 15:25:00  
You have it about figured out. These are six speed transmissions, but with only three gear speed selections. One gear is 1/3, one is 2/4 and one is 5/6. You select the gear you want, then select the high/low speed. For instance, you can change from second gear to fourth gear just by changing the high/low speed selector. The later transmissions used a similar arrangement, but the high/low selector was done internally by the main six speed gear selector.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
AlbertoV05

03-01-2003 18:04:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: 2-speed Model A Transmission? in reply to Pappy, 03-01-2003 15:50:38  
Thanks for the education, guys!

Al in Iowa



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy