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Johan

04-18-2003 08:02:06




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How do you all do it? Hot day, grease seeping from wheel hubs, flywheel throwing out some oil every time it has run, oil around covers, petcocks leaking a little, gasoline leaking here and there(little), soon the whole tractor is covered in thin black oil film as I desperately wipe it off...




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Dave K

04-19-2003 12:47:53




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
Think I would be concerned with GASOLINE leaking anywhere! If it leaks, fix it! I have a 1948 model A, which I farm with, not for show. New crank seal on the flywheel side, no more oil there. Seat the shims down tight against the case on the pully side, no more oil there. New gaskets on the crankcase and tranny cover, no more leaks there. Definatly no fuel leaks, had one burn up that way years ago! New gaskets on the rear where I opened it up to repair the pwrtroll pump, no more leaks there. Never have had the axel seals leak. Takes some time and effort but most of the leaks can be easily stopped. What would leak out of the petcocks anyway?

Dave

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John Van Valkenburgh

04-19-2003 00:23:52




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
I'm gettin used to it. I've also got a 1970 MGB and a 1970 Triumph motorcycle. British cars and bikes are hard to beat for dripping oil. My 1953 JD 50 does a pretty good job though. Generally I don't worry bout it until oil actually starts running. A little seepage is good protection from the elements.

I've been out in the rain a couple of times with the 50. Noticed that if you are used to holding the tractor at a stop with the clutch brake that it will slip when the belt pulley gets wet!

John

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Rudy in Tx

04-18-2003 19:15:50




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
I have a friend who ran a lot of IH tractors. He said you could take a picture of one brand new and hang it on the wall and in two weeks oil would be running out of the picture.



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They are not suppose to leak?

04-18-2003 12:55:54




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
Oh my, and I thought all this time they were designed to leak! Lets see, the crankshaft has a cast iron seal with no rubber, and a "screw" to run the oil back in the engine. Maybe if we all used Quaker State ND like was around back then all the SLUDGE and GUNK would keep em from leaking!

John



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AlbertoV05

04-18-2003 11:42:12




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
Johan,
Don't forget that 140W gear lube and 30W motor oil are AT LEAST an SPF 90 sunblocker!

Al in Iowa



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F-I-T

04-18-2003 08:46:48




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
Johan:

When I was a kid and we wondered what the tractor looked like when new, we'd just scrape off some grease from around the PowR-Trol couplings.

The paint was always original there !

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855



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CJDave

04-18-2003 08:37:37




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
Actually, Johan, I thought that was NORMAL. When we ran John Deere hand-crankers on a daily basis farmin', they had a nice smooth coating of grease on the deck with hay and weed chaff mixed in for a binder. Every time I serviced the tractors I would take a scraper and peel the grease-grass mixture off like a skin. Our tractors never leaked out of the flywheel oil seals, there was a lot more on the pulley side and down below. The tail ends were pretty oily, though, but we were farming in California where everything is worked dry and dusty and then you irrigate for germination. Compared to the Cats, the JD's were CLEAN! Easier to start too..... only ONE engine to fire up instead of two. You haven lived untill you've cranked an early model Cat starting engine standing on the left track and using that little crank that stuck up through the HOOD! Yow!

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Ralph

04-18-2003 12:09:01




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 Re: Re: Oil all over in reply to CJDave, 04-18-2003 08:37:37  
Am I remembering a Cat 60 with holes in the flywheel for insertion of a crow bar with which to romp it over? A lot of relief on the rear of the hole.



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G-MAN

04-18-2003 19:19:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil all over in reply to Ralph, 04-18-2003 12:09:01  
Yes, the Cat 60 was designed to start in that manner - a prybar in the flywheel. I've heard horror stories of tractors with the timing set wrong kicking back and throwing the prybar long distances, and in some cases the operator getting badly injured or even killed. A good friend of mine has a Cat 60. His preferred starting method ..... pulling it behind his small IH crawler. I ran that 60 a little bit, and if running one of those day in and day out wouldn't make a man out of you, I don't know what would. Power-assist steering clutches and brakes weren't even a gleam in the Cat engineers' eyes back then, let alone differential-steer.

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CJDave

04-18-2003 19:56:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil all over in reply to G-MAN, 04-18-2003 19:19:39  
They made an after-market kit for the RD-8 and the early D8 that had sort of an overcenter spring arrangement to help you pull the friction clutches back. Between those frictions and the SLIDE BAR transmission, those early 8's made eight hours seem like twenty when you were going back and forth dozing. How did we DO THAT....and then come back the next day and DO IT AGAIN?



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Brandon

04-18-2003 08:25:01




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 Re: Oil all over in reply to Johan, 04-18-2003 08:02:06  
All that oil keeps it from rusting! :)

Brandon



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