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820 PTO problem

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John Oelfke

05-14-2003 07:10:25




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I just bought an 820 black dash. The first thing I noticed was that the PTO would not stop turning when it was disengaged. I read my book and found that it was easy enough to fix by adjusting and lengthening the rod that controls the PTO. I did that and the brake now works great, but because of the adjustment the PTO leaver will not stay engaged now. The lever just falls back when you try to engage it. Extremely loose. Does this just sound like the clutch needs to be tightened alot or does it sound like a major PTO problem? I have not adjusted the clutch yet because when I adjusted the brake I noticed that it took alot of effort from the brake to keep the PTO from turning and I took that as an indication that the clutch was already very tight. I dont want it turning so hard that it burns out my brake...I would be greatfull for any help on this. Thanks! - John

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720AL

05-14-2003 20:20:05




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 Re: 820 PTO problem in reply to John Oelfke, 05-14-2003 07:10:25  
Hi,
I rebuilt the clutches in my 720 last year. First thing you need to do is adjust the clutches, then the brake. Follow the instructions in the shop manual carefully. If that doesn't fix it, then you'll probably have to rebuild the pto clutch.

My pto did the same thing. It turned out that the clutches were worn out and the brake plate lining was gone. The seal between the pto and rear end had let gear oil into the pto housing. That ruins the pto clutches. It's also a big pain to get to. Look in the book for details.

I spent about $350 on clutch discs. Many of the clutch plates were scored and had to be replaced. The good news is that you can still get the parts from your JD dealer.

The hardest part is replacing the pto housing and clutch assembly. If you don't have the clutch assembly perfectly aligned, it won't go into the clutch drum. And the pto assembly is HEAVY!

Good luck.

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F-I-T

05-14-2003 18:10:08




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 Re: 820 PTO problem in reply to John Oelfke, 05-14-2003 07:10:25  
John:

I'm not an 820 guy, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night !

Seriously, what I would do first is to disconnect the linkage at the PTO box down below. Then I'd use a wrench on that clutch fork shaft to engage the pto clutch manually. Then I'd see how far you would have to re-adjust that link to make that position be right, because if you don't readjust the clutch, that's where it will have to be to function without slipping or holding the lever forward.

If that position is dramatically different from where you have it now with the brake functioning properly, then I'd think next you'll need to look into a worn out brake facing or clutch pack.

But I'm just-a guessin' !

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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b carrico

05-14-2003 14:06:36




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 Re: 820 PTO problem in reply to John Oelfke, 05-14-2003 07:10:25  

You may want to check the oil in the PTO. Sometimes they leak the thick 90 weight from the transmission into the PTO, causing it to be hard to stop, (much thicker oil). It should be thin, 10 or 20 weight oil. This is not too hard to fix, just labor intensive.



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John Oelfke

05-14-2003 16:39:21




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 Re: Re: 820 PTO problem in reply to b carrico, 05-14-2003 14:06:36  
Thanks! I will check the oil. What about the PTO lever not staying in the engaged position now? It just falls back...



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