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1944 or 1945 A??????????

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dave

07-04-2003 13:11:06




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just got me an old handstart A but kinda confused on the year my serial number is 542963 in one of my old green magazines feb.1997 the article on early syled A tractors by j.r. hobbs says its a 1945 (1945---542700-555333) but the serial numbers on this website and others make me think its a 1944 they say the 1945 models begin with 548352, could someone please tell me what year my tractor is? i also read that serial numbers 542627-542699 were all scrapped if that helps any..... thanks dave

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frank

07-06-2003 14:25:59




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 Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to dave, 07-04-2003 13:11:06  
By my records it is a 1944, from serial # 528778 to 548351 is a 1944 model.



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Stan - Florida

07-05-2003 05:51:50




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 Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to dave, 07-04-2003 13:11:06  
To expand a little on CLW's reply, there are indeed several sources of information.

First is "John Deere Tractors 1918-1976" (commonly called "the brown book") which was published by Deere - it states that the 1945 model year began with 548352.

Second is "John Deere Tractors 1918-1994" ("the gray book") which was also published by Deere. In the preface it is stated that many changes have been made in the serial number lists, particularly for tractors built between 1935 and 1950. Apparently the writers of this book were more thorough in their research and dug into handwritten records at Waterloo and Dubuque more deeply. In this book, the 1945 model year for the A began at 542700, supporting the idea expressed here about the serial numbers that were scrapped.

It is my opinion that the "John Deere Tractor Data Book" used the information from the old "brown book", published in 1976, and may be a little suspect.

J.R. Hobbs' information agrees with the "gray book", and is probably right, since he had access to Deere archive information until just a couple of years ago.


As Doc mentioned in his reply, the Two Cylinder Club's info is quite accurate, and, although I don't have that info, I would suspect it agrees with Hobbs, as they (2-Cyl) also have had access to archive info.

Long answer to a short question, I guess, but I would go with info from Hobbs, the "gray book" and 2-Cyl Club - they will generally be more accurate than the Data Book.

Stan

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dave to stan

07-05-2003 09:55:52




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 Re: Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to Stan - Florida, 07-05-2003 05:51:50  
stan i think you hit it right on the head! thanks for all the info... so i truly think i have a real early 1945.....i thank all of ya very much.



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Will P

07-04-2003 23:00:20




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 Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to dave, 07-04-2003 13:11:06  
Doc is right, your tractor is a 1945 built in 1944. Why do you think that 542627-542699 were scrapped??? To start the next year and changes. I have a 43 A and B that some books call a 42. But I have the birth certificates from Deere stating that they are indeed 43's

Your tractor is a 1945

Will P



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Doc

07-04-2003 19:58:49




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 Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to dave, 07-04-2003 13:11:06  
This is a common question. I once had, what I thought was a 1942 JD A, which was according to this website and the Dunning book. Someone on this discussion board told me it was a 1943 model and my pocket guide provided by the 2-Cyl. club concurred. They say that the 45's came out after the plant shutdown in July, just like new cars are produced today at least 6 months in advance. I would guess that your tractor was built in the latter half of 1944, but it is actually considered a 1945 tractor. Just my .02.

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CLW

07-04-2003 19:37:22




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 Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to dave, 07-04-2003 13:11:06  
Dave, I checked three books and you are correct, they don't agree. I see the same numbers you have. I don't have an answer for you. Might try Deere for the build date, shipped to, ect. but unless you know the date they started building the 45 year model it may not do any good. I would think the people that write these books checked that and there is a reason they don't agree. This would be a good question for "MR. THINKER". Let us know what you find out.
CLW

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Jon in OHIO

07-04-2003 16:49:08




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 Re: 1944 or 1945 A?????????? in reply to dave, 07-04-2003 13:11:06  
I THINK YOU HAVE A1944.MY JOHN DEERE DATA BOOK BY DUNNING STATES1945 STARTS AT 548352



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