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Model A History Lesson Needed

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Joe

09-22-2003 14:52:33




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Need history lesson.

Why do some Model A's have a steering column that includes a vertical bar in front of the radiator?

These models also tend to say GP (General Purpose) on the side.

Was there a year (or Model) with this different design?

Seems like they redesigned the A in the late 30s?

Or is this the difference between the unstyled/styled Model A's?




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Allanj

09-22-2003 22:06:31




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 Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to Joe, 09-22-2003 14:52:33  
Joe, The web site: retiredtractors.com has a wealth of information about stuff like that. Allan



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Dave K( FL)

09-22-2003 15:59:24




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 Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to Joe, 09-22-2003 14:52:33  
It is the design difference between styled and unstyled. The unstyled are oldest.

Dave



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G-MAN

09-22-2003 15:47:39




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 Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to Joe, 09-22-2003 14:52:33  
Your question defines the difference between the styled and unstyled tractors. If the steering column is enclosed behind the grilles (even styled tractors still have the vertical pedestal), it is a styled tractor. The "A" was introduced in '34, and was styled for the '39 model year. The "B" was introduced in '35, and was styled at the same time as the "A".



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Joe

09-23-2003 07:00:56




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 Re: Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to G-MAN, 09-22-2003 15:47:39  
So . . . .

Sounds like they did a design change on a lot of models around 1938-39. I think this included the A,B, and G models. Not sure if it included more.

Also, I believe there was a particular industrial designer who was brought in who came up with the "styled" look. I remember reading that somewhere.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.



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38 JD A

09-23-2003 07:54:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to Joe, 09-23-2003 07:00:56  
the A & the B were style starting with the 39 model year the model G was in the early 40's with the GM witch meant G Modernized



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G-MAN

09-23-2003 07:49:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to Joe, 09-23-2003 07:00:56  
The "A" and "B" were styled for the '39 model year, and the "G" was styled for the '41 model year. The unstyled "G" was the "ugly duckling" sitting alongside styled "A"s and "B"s in the showrooms until 1941. Frank is right that Henry Dreyfuss was the industrial designer that styled the tractors. IH chose Raymond Loewy to do the same for their tractors. Henry Dreyfuss designed many common items, such as the round Honeywell thermostats found in millions of homes, several styles of telephone and so on. His main goal with Deere was to imrove not only the looks of the tractors, but also the performance and safety. One thing he absolutely hated, however, was the vertical air and intake stacks used on tractors, as they interfered with the smooth lines of the hoods.

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F-I-T

09-23-2003 07:03:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Model A History Lesson Needed in reply to Joe, 09-23-2003 07:00:56  
Joe:

Henry Dreyfus was the designer you are possibly thinking of. I believe his firm still works with Deere on design.

Frank



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