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Thanks starting problems Clooney, John T

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36 A

09-28-2003 19:32:08




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The B has been starting easier but still dont have that blue spark.One question My oil cup is filled at the line with 30wt and it gurgrls when cranking. The 36 A i ran a compresion test, not good. Left side 50-lbs ,right 25 at best.New winter project.Grandpa bought it in 58 with a new .045 motor.Its time.A big thanks for all the things to test for ,i copyied them for further use.36 A




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Clooney (you're welcome)

09-29-2003 03:59:19




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 Re: Thanks starting problems Clooney, John T in reply to 36 A, 09-28-2003 19:32:08  
36 A, You’re welcome…

~On that gurgling,, that is somewhat normal if you are getting any pressure back through the intake valves while cranking.

~On your compression test,, You need to run it on a hot engine with both the choke & throttle wide open.

~One thing you might want to do is run a leak down test on it...To do that, take a old spark plug & break the center porcelain out, then weld or braze an air hose fitting to the plug [you might even be able to use your compression testing hose], then install the that special plug in one side at a time, then bring the cylinder being tested to TDC [both valves closed], then put the tractor in high gear & set both brakes & block the wheels, now put about 50-60 psi of air pressure in the cylinder & see where it comes out.. That will tell you a lot about the condition of your engine & if you have good sealing valves or rings. If you hear air hissing out from the intake you have a leaking intake valve, if you hear air hissing out from the exhaust you have a leaking exhaust valve, if you hear air hissing out from the crankcase you have leaking rings.

~On that "no blue spark", E-Mail me & give me the mag make & model you are using & I will help you get a nice blue spark that will jump a 5/16"+ gap...Different mags have different inherent problems.

JDClooney@aol.com

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John T

09-28-2003 21:22:19




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 Re: Thanks starting problems Clooney, John T in reply to 36 A, 09-28-2003 19:32:08  
Youre welcome and it sounds like the A is due for a valve n rign job unelss the valves are adjusted way off or sticking etc. if shes cranked enough to oil up the rings/cylinders that is. On that gurgling, there could be some mis adjusted or sticking valves or restrictions in the air pipe or mesh screen maybe. If the points and condensor and wires and plugs are good but the spark is still weak at crank speeds, the impulse spring may be weak or a weak or corroded rotor magnet or corroded core and mounts etc. if a magneto.

Good Luck, God Bless John T

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