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Joe Murphy

01-30-2004 02:25:57




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Should I put lead additive or something else in the gas for my 40




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John T

01-30-2004 06:34:10




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 Re: JD 40 Fuel Additive in reply to Joe Murphy, 01-30-2004 02:25:57  
Joe, any so called "lead additive" probably isnt needed depending upon what kind of use you put the old girl to. If used long and hard and it gets up to full operating temperature for long periods, the absence of lead can contribute to a bit more valve and seat wear (lead cushions n lubricates that to some extent). However, if you ever do have valve problems or overhaul, hardened valve seats might then be an option. I think if you use the tractor lightly and the temp never gets up, heavy use of additives can accumulate deposits on the plugs.

As far as additives, what has worked for me and I run now is, I add a small can of the low ash 2 cycle motor oil (maybe Mercury Quicksilver) to the gas when I fill the tank, I run Marvel top oil in the crankcase (NOT gas, it fouled my plugs), and I pretty much use Sta Bil gasoline stablizer year round since the tractor sits a lot. Of course, just regular 87 octane gas.

Good topic and it will be interesting to hear several opiions on what others use for additives.

Best wishes n God Bless

John T

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Clooney

01-30-2004 02:57:05




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 Re: JD 40 Fuel Additive in reply to Joe Murphy, 01-30-2004 02:25:57  
Joe, if you want to,, Do you need to?.. Probably not..

~Those Dubuque tractors tend to fowl spark plugs to begin with & a lead substitute will make it even worse..

~I doubt you will find a real additive anyhow as most areas have banned actual lead additives.. [most additives are actually just lead substitutes now]

~Here is my personal take on using a lead additive: IF the tractor isn't worked hard enough to turn the muffler & exhaust pipe red then an additive isn't needed.. If a tractor is worked hard enough to turn the exhaust red then there is a chance of valve to seat recession if hardened seats or an additive isn't used..

~If you want to add something for light duty use & to help lube the upper end a little just add a few ounces of 2-cycle oil to each tank of gasoline.. 2-cycle oil will add a little valve lube, will help the rings seal a little better at start-up & low RPM’s, & it burns much cleaner & better than Marvel Mystery Oil..

JDClooney@aol.com

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tom

01-30-2004 08:34:35




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 Re: Re: JD 40 Fuel Additive in reply to Clooney , 01-30-2004 02:57:05  
Clooney,

Howdy...you stated, "Those Dubuque tractors tend to [foul] spark plugs to begin with & a lead substitute will make it even worse.."

Is this a function of design, plug selection, fuel selection/mixture, operator usage/error or combinations?

I hope you would concur that if Champ. H10C's [gapped correctly and clean], new fuel and heavy loads/usage were applied, this would probably prevent fouling. If not, then what can a M/40/etc, series owner do to prevent unwarranted plug fouling? I believe, and know you would concur, I have no control over design.

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tom

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Clooney

01-30-2004 15:31:36




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 40 Fuel Additive in reply to tom, 01-30-2004 08:34:35  
Tom, on the plug fouling? you ask..."Is this a function of design, plug selection, fuel selection/mixture, operator usage/error or combinations?"...>>> Yes, all of the above..

~In a lot of cases it's lower compression due to wear.. Then the newer emission gasoline that's made for higher compression engines takes more of a spark to get it to ignite [probably the big reason].. Then the spark plugs of late don't seem to have much of any glazing on the center porcelains & that promotes fuel fouling.. The M-430 also have a rather weak ignition system & that allows the spark to bleed off before it builds high enough to jump the plug gap.. Some of the replacement condensers seem to be mismatched & that lowers the spark output a little.. The updraft carb has a tendency to plug up the air inlet bronze fuel drain.. The ignition switches tend to increase internal resistance with age & that lowers the spark.. There's more but you get the idea....

JDClooney@aol.com

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