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Dennis Andres

12-15-2004 14:43:12

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There is a picture on JD 2005 calender showing a cotton picker mounted on a JD row crop 2 cyl.tractor.Is this a special tractor, as it has to run in reverse in the picking mode.I was wondering if it had a special transmission to allow it more than 1 speed in reverse?

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Mitchissippi

12-17-2004 12:44:29

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

I have the picker my uncle had, but he sold the tractor he ran it on before he knew I was interested - 530 L.P.

I remember riding with him while he picked, but I was 5 or 6 and how everything hooked up and operated, I couldn't say.

I think all he did was lay down the exhaust, remove the 3 point arms and mount the picker. I dought the picking unit would pick fast enough to need more than one reverse.

He did a lot of custom picking, so when it was time to hit the road, he'd unhook the rod connecting the steering wheels and drive from the tractor seat.

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Jason D. Wahl

12-17-2004 07:56:08

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

I owned a John Deere model 70 that was factory equipped as a cotton picker. Mine was a factory propane burner. The overhead controls and basket were long time removed before I got it, however it still had the muffler laying horizontal using a 90 degree elbow, plus it had a the little brackets/sprockets used to connect the linkages to the upper platform. 5th & 6th gears were actually two more reverse gears. I like to drive mine around the block quite often and since it had only up to 4th gear it wasn't very fast going anywhere. Also, the propane stunk! I traded it for a pair of running model Bs'.

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Soldier Tom

12-16-2004 15:54:23

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

See in a book here Randy Leffingwell's John Deere on page 156, good article about 4 pages worth on the "Air Trol" cotton pickers. The 60 and 70 has a 3.5 mph reverse speed which was fast enough to harvest cotton. The stack was up top, but laid down on a 90 degree to keep it out of the way.
There are some neat pics of the whole rig.
~Walk in peace~
Soldier Tom

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CLW

12-16-2004 19:03:59

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Soldier Tom, 12-16-2004 15:54:23

The most interesting thing in the artical was that both the 60 and 70 are diesels. (page 154, top left)
CLW

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rej

12-16-2004 09:37:15

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

You change the ring gear to the opposite side of the pinion.

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JDGnut

12-16-2004 10:16:09

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to rej, 12-16-2004 09:37:15

Ring Gear and Pinion??? on a rowcrop two cylinder???? JDGnut

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Dick Kline

12-16-2004 09:16:42

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

Don't know about Deere's but some could be reversed by floping the ring gear over. Worked for some car transaxles too. Used to do it to Corvairs so you could put a V8 in the back seat.

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John Van Valkenburgh

12-16-2004 18:56:53

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dick Kline, 12-16-2004 09:16:42

A Vair-8! Haven't heard that in awhile. Always wanted a '66 Corsa 140 4-speed. Not too many around and I've already got too many toys/projects according to my wife.

John
1953 Model 50

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730-LP

12-16-2004 06:28:19

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

I have a 520-LP that has had cotton picker on it.It has the exaust down under,a crooked gas lever with a hole in it to put a rod in that goes up in the picker cab and has places on the clutch and gear shift levers where rods have been attached to work them.gear shift could only be shifted between 1st and reverse

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12-16-2004 06:14:02

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

This one runs forward, but I not too long ago, I saw a photo of what I remember to be a 520 with a picker running backward. I don't find that photo this morning..

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thurlow

12-16-2004 06:23:46

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to TG, 12-16-2004 06:14:02

I take it you weren"t raised in cotton country (grin)..... ....

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(above) 1954 JD 70 With 2

12-16-2004 06:15:20

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to TG, 12-16-2004 06:14:02

The photo above is a 1954 JD 70 With 227 Picker according to the photo caption.

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Rockbasss

12-15-2004 22:35:46

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

I don't know the answer, but my '58 420 has a Directional Reverser on it. By using it I would have 5 gears in reverse and 1 forward.

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thurlow

12-15-2004 15:10:39

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

From my somewhat fallible memory; neighbor had one on an "A"; another neighbor had one on a "520", so they would surely work on anything larger; never saw one on a "B" or a "50"; there was a kit to put one on a 2010, although I never saw one; my Dad bought a new 3010 and a new picker (either a 22 or a 122) in 1963.Don't think anything was done to the transmissions on any of 'em, although the IHs of the same period had something changed in the transmissions to give 5 ??? speeds forward and 1 reverse ..... .....while picking.

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Wayne in Tn.

12-15-2004 14:59:59

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Dennis Andres, 12-15-2004 14:43:12

Dennis, growing up in the South, I saw a lot of those tractor mounted pickers, and I do remember something about how they changed the transmissions around somehow. But I can"t say exactly how they did it, maybe someone else can explain it.

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Ol Gray A

12-15-2004 16:09:11

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Wayne in Tn., 12-15-2004 14:59:59

On the farmalls you moved the gear shift to use it as a cotton picker. I don't know how it was done on a JD

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BrianB

12-16-2004 20:02:32

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Re: John Deere's used for cotton picker in reply to Ol Gray A, 12-15-2004 16:09:11

My grandpa used to run 4 mounted pickers when I was a kid. One on a G, one on a 4010 and 2 on 4020"s. He never changed anything in the transmissions on them,just mounted them and away he went. The 10 series tractors had an extra reverse,(he also put them on 3010"s before he traded for the 4000 series) that was located below the 4th and 7th gear selectors like the ones tween the 1st and 3rd and 2nd and 5th. They were extremely slow going down the road but where fast in the field, faster than most 2 row models ever where. When he had to move them long distances between fields, they would unhook the rods that attached to the steering wheel, brakes and other operating levers and climb into the seat on the tractor and drive the tractor foward down the road, which inturn made the picker run backwards. They were also hard on engines as they were never ran faster than 12 to 1500 rpms. He said it was nothing to see oil dripping out of the exhaust pipes when the season was over and usually took several days to a week of hard pulling the next spring to get the rings to reseat and the power to comeback in them. As far as the picture posted above in one of the other replies, it is a picker alright,a cornpicker, but not a cottonpicker.

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