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Joelrand4020

01-12-2005 07:27:06




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I have been given the challenge of starting a 720 Diesel with pony start this next weekend. I have several obstacles to overcome.
The pony motor runs, but the clutch does not work, so I can use it to heat the diesel but not turn it over. The temp in south dakota this weekend will be -10 degrees F. The diesel tank is empty. How do I prime the fuel injectors?
Can I run the pony for a while, then pull start the tractor? It may turn into a spring project, but I want to give it a try. Thanks.

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Clooney

01-12-2005 13:54:43




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 Re: 720 diesel in reply to Joelrand4020, 01-12-2005 07:27:06  
Joelrand4020, 720Deere pretty well covered the fuel system bleeding.. If it isn't out of fuel now they probably won't need bleeding anyhow..

Take a short ladder with you & a cork or very small rubber plug.. On bleeding those tractors that are out of fuel for a along time-- they are hard to bleed.. I have found that if you plug of the fuel tank vent line (with that cork),, then climb on that ladder you can then cup your hands around the fuel tank filler neck & blow positive pressure into the tank using your mouth on your cupped hands.. That method will allow bleeding in minutes that could take hours at times if the filters are curded or the pump by-pass plunger isn’t cooperating & allowing the fuel through..

On that pony clutch not working,, no worry mate.. Just start the pony (that could be a problem in itself), then allow the pony to warm itself & the big diesel,,, then pull the compression release,, put the tractor in 6th gear & pull it with another tractor ( I usually use a bungee cord to hold the compression release pulled back),, then engage the diesel tractor’s clutch & allow the big engine to spool up for a short distance,,, once the big engine has spun over a while & has good oil pressure,, release the bungee cord & allow the big engine to spin over on compression for another short distance,, then slowly add fuel with the hand throttle & you should be off to the races..

If that tractor has been sitting for a long time or has old fuel in it be sure to wear old clothes & an old coat as you will be covered with black oily goop & will look like a Dalmatian once it fires..

Clooney

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Emerald70D

01-12-2005 08:57:23




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 Re: 720 diesel in reply to Joelrand4020, 01-12-2005 07:27:06  
Joel...be careful! Make sure you do not have water/condensation in the crankcase or the differential. If water has settled to the bottom and frozen to ice, you will break the oil pump or a gear in the transmission/rear end. Usually not a good idea to start a tractor that has been setting unused, outdoors for a long time when the temperatures are sub-zero. I would loosen the drain plugs on the engine and transmission to make sure you don't have an ice cube in there.

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720Deere

01-12-2005 08:04:01




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 Re: 720 diesel in reply to Joelrand4020, 01-12-2005 07:27:06  
You might want to try adjusting that pony clutch. It is not that difficult of a job. Just remove the small cover on top of the pony tranny and adjust each of the bolts in there about 1/6th of a turn (one flat on the bolt head) at a time until you get good friction.

If there is a tranny problem then your best bet will be to warm the diesel with the pony and then pull start it. The pony warms the diesel through the coolant and also the pony exhaust warms the intake for the diesel.

As far as priming the pumps and injectors, that's not too bad either. First open the bleeder screws on the fuel filters one at a time until you get good fuel flow. Then on the left side of the tractor, there is a hex head plug off the side of the governor linkage at the side of the block. Open that plug until you get a good flow of fuel and the pumps should be good to go. Usually you can get at least one injector to fire off at this point. Once it is running on one cylinder, you can open the throttle and usually get the second one to pop also. If this does not work, you will have to remove the valve cover (three bolts) and crack the injector lines. This will be difficult for you as you have no cranking source.

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