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stacking new Generation rear wieghts

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2510bill

04-13-2005 21:42:03




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Im trying to stack 2 sets of rear wheel weights on my freshly restored 2510. The bolts I got from JD are long enough to attach the first weight but only show about 3 threads when I use them to attach a second weight. This isnt enough for a washer and the nut. My parts book shows these as the correct bolts(they are splined shoulder bolts). Anyone else had this problem? Im trying to use the correct hardware. Thanks in advance.

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Paul in WI

04-14-2005 18:50:53




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 Re: stacking new Generation rear wieghts in reply to 2510bill, 04-13-2005 21:42:03  
If you still need help send me some pictures. Same bolts should work. I can also send pictures of the weights I have installed.

Paul in WI



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720Deere

04-14-2005 05:39:55




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 Re: stacking new Generation rear wieghts in reply to 2510bill, 04-13-2005 21:42:03  
Those bolts should be long enough. I use the same serated shoulder bolt with multiple sets of weights and have no problems. The handhole slots do line up from weight to weight you just have to flip each weight 180 degrees as you install them. There should be a notch or arrow in the wheel casting and the weights have a mark along the their edge. Line the marks on the first weight and the wheel and then the second weight will have it's mark going the opposite way with the third weight's mark lining up with the first weight and the wheel. Make sure that the bolts are driven into the weights tight. Those weights usually have years of rust in the holes and could use a little cleaning before you install the bolts. Also make sure you are using the correct hole in the weight. I'm sure that you've seen there is one set of holes with a recess to accomodate the bolt head and a second set that actually sit over the bolts when mounting successive weights.

Have you tried putting a nut on the available threads and seeing if it will pull the bolt through? We have some that act like what your experiencing and when you tighten the nut they pull through. As far as I know, Deere only sells that one square headed, serated shoulder wheel weight bolt and they are about $4/each. Those bolts are 5/8" x 3-1/2". They sell a similar square head bolt without the serated shoulder for a little over $1.50 each, but they won't stay in the weights while you are trying to mount successive sets. If you don't get it straightened out, drop me an email and I have some pictures of weights and bolts, etc.

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Tx Jim

04-14-2005 05:26:24




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 Re: stacking new Generation rear wieghts in reply to 2510bill, 04-13-2005 21:42:03  
Bill to install weights properly you need 3 bolts per weight.Way back in dark ages when I installed weights for dealer 6 each ofbolts,nuts&L.washers came in box for each set of weights.You need to install a set of bolts in holes that don't have depressions in them,then install weight on wheel with bolts protruding out of first ready for next weight.There is a timing mak on wheel to correctly TIME first weight so there is access to bolts so wheel can be moved without removing any weights.Next weight is turned 180 degees.Next weigh 180 degrees.Bolts required installed in each weight except last to be installed.I've adjusted wheel widths on wheels/5weights per side without removing weights.This post bring back memories of pinched fingers.HTH,Jim

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720Deere

04-14-2005 05:47:49




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 Re: stacking new Generation rear wieghts in reply to Tx Jim, 04-14-2005 05:26:24  
Tx Jim,

I was typing my reply as you answered, but it looks like you've played the game plenty. We do some antique tractor pulling and do plenty weight switching. I wouldn't do it any other way than to use the Deere bolts. I see many people using all-thread and it's just not safe.

I agree with you on the pinched fingers! As for adjusting wheel widths with 5 sets of weights on, it works well as long as you have a Deere wheel wrench. I think their statement in the owner's manual was that you could adjust the wheels with up to 3 sets of weights mounted, but I agree with you it can be done.

Boy I wish I could have bought some of those bolt sets back in the day. We have close to $15 per weight invested in bolts and nuts, but like I said before their is no other acceptable way. I see the all-thread guys with their weights flopping around like a half dead fish and wonder why. At least with 3 bolts per weight they are secure and they are actually easier to change that way. Those bolts line up perfect and you just set them on and off with the help of the impact gun. We're no Nascar pit crew, but we can add 3 sets of weights pretty fast.

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Tx Jim

04-14-2005 05:59:55




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 all-thread in reply to 720Deere, 04-14-2005 05:47:49  
720Deere,yes I've installed many sets frt. and rear.I worked in all departments for a Deere dealer(21 yrs.)and have been custom farming for last 18 yrs.with JD equipment.All- thread is not IMHO strong enough for weight installationJust can't get Green paint out of my life.Yes you are right without JD tools you couldn't adjust with weights installed.Tx Jim



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MSM

04-14-2005 04:09:14




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 Re: stacking new Generation rear wieghts in reply to 2510bill, 04-13-2005 21:42:03  
With the bolts you have the second weight will have to be turned a third of a turn for the bolts to work if I remember correctly. If you want to line up all the slots evenly a longer bolt will be needed. I run 4 weights on each wheel of a 4020 and use 3 lengths of all thread nutted to the hub so all the weight slots line up.



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