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Jim in michigan

02-24-2004 07:25:57

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I am in the process if aquiring a JD tractor it has a 2 cyl ,,I cannot recall if it is a A.B or 60,70 but the problem is that it was rebuilt and running, they shut it down and when they went to run it again it was seized up,, havent touched it in years. Any idea what may have went wrong? maybe a stuck starter? It is in the guys field now, but still looks great, it has no tires on it, but has wheels, the tires were used elsewhere. It has a loader but is narrow front.I am getting it and a 560D Farmall in a trade...Thanks in advance....Jim

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Mark Scholten

02-24-2004 14:39:12

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

Jim: Give me a direct email. I may be able to take a look at it with you and help you out.
Mark Scholten

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RUSS

02-24-2004 13:43:06

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

JD Locked up: Tractorboy has got a good starting line up. Mix Mystery Oil with PBRust about 5 to 1
heat this mix over a 5oo Watt Lamp or Par boil in a double boiler. Use a hose and small funnel and put a 1/2 cup on top of each piston via the spark plug hole. Keep the engine around 150 degrees
for a couple days to enhance the lube effect.
See if you can get on the flywheel starter ring with a crowbar and move the crankshaft back and forth. If you can get the flywheel cover off you can use blocking to get decent purchase on the starter ring. Most common killer of free movement over the years
is an open exhaust stack. Rainwater and steel cylinders flash up rust pretty heavy.
Drain off engine case oil into a five gallon bucket and see if water runs out first thing.
Refill per repair manual requirements. Just keep digging it will come out just fine.
John Deere parts are a bit higher than the rest of the pack but many can be ordered or found in various salvage centers. Good luck.

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Gary in TX

02-24-2004 09:11:31

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

Jim I saw a post on here a few days back on an H with a similar problem. Seems like if I remember right it was mainly from the cylinders needing more lubrication? If you go back and look at the posts for John Deere H's you might find it. I think it said it was just overhauled too???? I think I fixin to get an A myself here pretty quick to go along with the B and the H I allready have. Got alot of restoring to do!

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Jim in michigan

02-24-2004 08:51:59

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

My question may have been misunderstood,,,The tractor was running,,they shut it down after making hay, went out later, either the same day or the following day, and it was seized,,the guy I am getting it from has no idea how to work on anything,,, he said it wouldnt turn over, so he parked it. I am not new to tractors, just to JD 2 cyl opposed type,,I have a JD dozer with a 2 cyl inline, but of course these are different,,I currently have more then 10 tractors, this will be the first JD wheel tractor. I know JD is expensive to work on,,if it proves to be too serious, I will sell it as parts or scrap it,,,there are too many of them around to make it worth very much,,I am getting it on a trade and the tractor I wanted in the deal is the 560D not really the JD,,I have nothing against JD except for how pricey the parts are,,,,Jim

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buickanddeere

02-24-2004 16:58:04

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Re: Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 08:51:59

It's possible the sudden "seizing" of the engine was hydraulic lock. A cylinder full of fuel. Carb floats stick open on occasion and the oil pressure fuel shut off if equipped can be jimmied to stay open or just fail open.

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CLW

02-24-2004 10:39:54

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Re: Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 08:51:59

Jim, if what they say is true then it COULD be a starter, bad ground or batt. ect. I think in that case Tractorboy gives good advice to follow. Engine may free up without much problem. Hope it had a cover on muffler. You would look for the same problem as why it won't turn over as you would with any of your other tractors. If it turns out to be an easy fix and if it is a 60 or 70 you may learn to like the old Deeres. Nothing wrong with A or B but you MAY get power steering and live hdy. with 60 or 70. Hope it is a cheap repair for you.
CLW

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Mike M

02-24-2004 09:40:27

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Re: Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 08:51:59

I think someone is telling you stories. John Deeres are not any more expensive to fix than anything else. This may have came about by the fact that on another brand you make do with what parts you can find,which is usually not much.But with a Deere new parts and repro parts are available more and more everyday.

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CLW

02-24-2004 08:28:19

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

Jim, my guess is it is more than a starter. You don't leave a tractor in a field for years and remove the tires becouse the starter is not working. If it is a starter they could always pull start it. Either something in the engine broke or it set long enough the pistons are stuck, or both. Either way you will more than likely be looking at a engine tear down. Be careful as there is not any money to be made on these old tractors. You get a lot of money in them real quick. That being said they are sure fun to work on and play with if money is not a problem. The A,B,60 or 70 in working order and not rare will be worth maybe $1000-$3000. Not trying to discourage you at all. Just that if you are new to tractors I don't want you to get taken by someone wanting to tell you that you can get rich on these old Deeres.
CLW

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Tractorboy

02-24-2004 08:08:57

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

This problem is unfortunately all to common for older tractors. Hopefully this tractor is not too bad, but it could need a engine rebuild also. At a minimum what happened is that water got into the cylinders and rusted the rings to the sidewalls. Water can enter directly from the exhaust pipe, or a crack in the block or head. However other solid matter can enter the same way. Solid material must be removed manually.

Steps to fix a rusting problem vary with the individual. They include:

1. Remove the spark plugs, 2. Fill the cylinders with rust penetrant -- as many choices here as their are tractors.
3. Wait at least a week, or longer - the longer the better.
4. Try to turn the flywheel manually. You can try pulling, but make sure you are on loose gravel so that you don't cause more damage than already as occured. And do not pull far if it doesn't move immediately.
5. Time and patience work best here.

At worst..... They did not fill the crankcase with oil or forget to connect the oil pump and it is siezed from running dry. Thus they are not telling you the truth. My first tractor had no oil pressure, but the seller told me that it was just a gauge problem. Actually it was a small part that connected the oil pump to the drive that had broke. This required a complete engine overhaul for the lack of a <$5 part. Hopefully this is not your case.

In either case, if you can't get he engine to turn you will need to open the engine and rebuild it. You should probably do this anyway to inspect the cylinder walls and take appropriate steps.

I hope you don't plan on paying too much for this tractor, since it could be expensive to get it to run again. However, that is the joy with these old tractors, to get them to run again. So... be warned, but have fun.

Suggest you determine the model of the tractor, then purchase parts, service, and operator manuals from JD before you take that next step.

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ronjohn

02-24-2004 07:58:35

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Re: JD 2 cyl question in reply to Jim in michigan, 02-24-2004 07:25:57

it could be a million things, put a breaker bar in the flywheel and see if the engine brakes loose, might take a little bit of grunting, worth a shot though

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