Hey GMan

My family has used drop axle Allis for over 50 years. Never found a job they couldn't do that a straight axle could. Anyway, drop axles give better crop clearance. As for the intake, turbo creates more heat but why add to the heat by having intake air close to hot exhaust ports? I know Deere used that system for many years and now finally changed their minds. I didn't say they had a poor engine previously. Allis used the same engine design from 1963 up to 1987 when they sold out. If Allis hadn't quit I have no doubt they would still be using an improved version today. If Duetz hadn't stopped using the Allis engine they may still be Duetz-
Allis. Except for a couple models, all Allis tractors engines were rated at 2300 RPM or less. They made their HP on engine design and turbo technology. I think the 7080 should have had the 516 cid AC engine. But anyway, having opposed intake and exhaust is better and Deere finally agrees. Kinda like rotary combines. Unless you believe Deere when they say their STS is not a rotary combine. LOL. I didn't say that the New Gen. were the first Deeres to have live hydraulic's, live PTO, ect. From my research the R didn't have those right at first in 1947 but some time after it's introduction. What I'm saying is one company introduces a line that one-ups everyone else then another one-ups them and so on. That what the WD and CA did. Then came the 50 and 60. Then came the Super MTA. Then the 435 and 445. Then the 20 series 2 cylinder. Then the D series. Then the 460 and 560. Then 901 and 701. Then the 1900 and 1800. then the 4010 and 3010. Then the D21 and the 190 and so on and so forth. That's how is was and is. Deere did a better job of organizing and marketing and did it all at once. I never said that dancing girls made their equipment better quality. I said that dancing girls was a way to market a good product better than anyone else. Ask anyone. You can take almost any peice of equipment today, paint it green and sticker it Deere and Deere will sell the heck out of it. BTW Allis at the time was a much larger company than Deere and had plenty of capital. Farm equipment was always considered a sideline for them even when later it was thier only money maker. They never spent much on marketing the Ag line. That was the biggest down fall for Allis. They poored the AG line profits into thier hydroturbines and ship engines and many other parts of the company that were losing money. That's why they went broke not because of your shortsighted view that they had poor quality ag equipment. The story goes far beyond what you think you know. JoelS