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JD 70 starting motor engagement to the ring gear

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jlow

01-25-2006 15:03:39




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I have a JD 70 diesel that I am have troubles with the starter engaging with the ring gear. If I line up the ring gear and the stater gear it will engage fine. I see the the gear on the end of the starter is some what worn. Is there some sort of easy way to fix this problem. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank J




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jlow

01-26-2006 08:23:30




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 Re: JD 70 starting motor engagement to the ring ge in reply to jlow, 01-25-2006 15:03:39  
Thanks guys.

J



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Doug in IL

01-25-2006 20:21:56




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 Re: JD 70 starting motor engagement to the ring ge in reply to jlow, 01-25-2006 15:03:39  
I have also seen the edges of the ring gear have burrs on them or be worn flat. The engine stops in the same place most of the time. So there is often a problem on 5 or 6 teeth with this wear pattern. The fix is to grind a slight bevel back on the ring gear so the pinion teeth will engage into the ring gear instead of just hitting against the flatened teeth. A lot of times you can manually align and engage the pinion, but the flattened teeth won't let the pinion turn the slight amount needed to engage on it's own. I hope this makes some sense to you.

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Doug in IL

01-25-2006 20:26:22




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 Re: JD 70 starting motor engagement to the ring ge in reply to Doug in IL, 01-25-2006 20:21:56  
I just noticed you said Diesel. The ones I have seen like I described were gas tractors. But, you could probably still have a similar problem.



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F-I-T

01-25-2006 15:57:01




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 Re: JD 70 starting motor engagement to the ring ge in reply to jlow, 01-25-2006 15:03:39  
jlow:

There are a couple of things you'll want to check. The pinion gear that slides out to drive the ring gear is moved out by a yoke, or fork. The end of this fork can wear and thus not push the pinion out as far as when new. Engage the pinion and then pry the pinion outward to see how much farther the gear can slide out. This extra movement can indicate wear in the fork.

Also, as you alluded to, the pinion gear leading teeth edges can wear and this causes a lack of meat to mesh.

Then you have to see if there is room to adjust the left half of the linkage that throws the shaft, that moves the fork, which pushes the pinion into the ring gear.

If you have a '70' service manual, there is a pretty explicit explanation of the correct adjustment procedure so that you don't get the clutch out of whack.

Now. If you really meant the electric starter motor and the pony motor ring gear, disregard the above, as this is a common centrifugal Bendix type arrangement and has a different set of trouble shooting steps.

Frank

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